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    Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

    Interesting finds here.

    I think it would be more helpful to me, and possibly others if you could point out details on the item and the photo which show that it's an exact match.

    Remember- we're using the true definition of photo match, not style match, so show off the details- bat marks, dirt marks, helmet marks etc.

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    Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

    Could someone please explain to me how some of these items are photo-matched?

    Batting gloves and cleats? I do not believe these are photo-matched but style matched, anyone else agree with me?

    Unless there is a distinctive characteristic that stands out, you can not photo match an item. Pinstripes on a jersey, stains, rips, tears, hit marks, etc...

    I feel many people just want there item to be the one in the photo, so they start seeing things. Again, a photo-match must have a characteristic such as listed above. Just because an item was signed by the player that he used it on a special day, the photo-matching is great, but unless there is something amazing such as the two jerseys with pin-stripe locational matches (that Yankees jersey is so cool) it is very hard to call an item photo-matched.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trsent
    Could someone please explain to me how some of these items are photo-matched?

    Batting gloves and cleats? I do not believe these are photo-matched but style matched, anyone else agree with me?

    Unless there is a distinctive characteristic that stands out, you can not photo match an item. Pinstripes on a jersey, stains, rips, tears, hit marks, etc...

    I feel many people just want there item to be the one in the photo, so they start seeing things. Again, a photo-match must have a characteristic such as listed above. Just because an item was signed by the player that he used it on a special day, the photo-matching is great, but unless there is something amazing such as the two jerseys with pin-stripe locational matches (that Yankees jersey is so cool) it is very hard to call an item photo-matched.


    I believe my Carter jersey is the one in the video and doubt there were multiple sets used for the filming. I can see the red stains on the unform pants in the photo on the back of the VHS jacket. In addition the way GARY and 8 line up on the jersey is exact.

    I do agree that there must be a distinction between style match and exact jersey in the photo. To be able to photo match an GU item to the exact item you possess there must be tell-tail indications such as dirt stains, hit marks, pinstripe pattern, etc.

    We must not get the two confused.

    -David

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    Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

    Quote Originally Posted by trsent
    Could someone please explain to me how some of these items are photo-matched?

    Batting gloves and cleats? I do not believe these are photo-matched but style matched, anyone else agree with me?

    If you were referring to my post then you got it all wrong. My items were the exact pictures of them wearing the cleats and gloves I have. I knew what exact date they wore them and I looked up that date on getty images and found pics of them wearing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kylehess10
    If you were referring to my post then you got it all wrong. My items were the exact pictures of them wearing the cleats and gloves I have. I knew what exact date they wore them and I looked up that date on getty images and found pics of them wearing it.
    Great, you have a style match because you cannot show any exact science proof that the items are the same. I do not care the dates of the use or the photos. Unless you see a stain, scratch, rip, or something amazing, that is a photo match. When you show a picture that has nothing to make the item appear identical but your word or the players word, then it is a style match.

    Can you believe, I got a phone call over this from someone telling me to post a reply before I left town? Isn't there something better we can debate weather your gloves are photo matched or style matched?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trsent
    Great, you have a style match because you cannot show any exact science proof that the items are the same. I do not care the dates of the use or the photos. Unless you see a stain, scratch, rip, or something amazing, that is a photo match. When you show a picture that has nothing to make the item appear identical but your word or the players word, then it is a style match.
    I never knew that there was difference between style and photo match. Thanks for informing me

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    Folks,

    This is an interesting discussion and there are some phenomenal posts of photo-matched items here. Thanks to everyone who is contributing or will contribute. I am further grateful for the LTC Dave Grob post that Joel reminded us of ... and I am glad to know that this is MEARS' official position on photo-matching. The only thing I would disagree with LTC Grob about, though, is that there are many times for which only one in-action photo is needed to photo-match an item (there are some perfect examples in this thread - the Varitek bat, for insance). I think the bottom line is that, no matter what the evidence, it must definitively demonstrate that the item is the exact same item that is shown in the in-action photo (I believe Eric, Joel, LTC Grob, and others will all agree to this - but feel free to chime in if your take on things differs). Just as with the terms game-worn and player-issued, folks are free to define terms and concepts as they wish - it is a free country, of course. Still, it is helpful for us to have a normative set of defnitions of terms and concepts and I think it's great that folks are contributing posts of not only photo-matched items, but also ideas and thoughts about the alternative terms photo-matched and style-matched. I look forward to seeing other posts.

    Reid
    Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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    Re: Post Your Photo-matched Game-used Items Here

    What?

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    I would have to agree on the fact that the term "Photo-match" has in some degree been over used. Many times it is just a style match which we all have many of. I'm sure everyone here knows this but, the dates on Getty aren't always correct for the game shown, the dates on MLB.com's authentication program aren't always correct either. With that in mind, I have what I consider to be 2 exact photo matches, Enjoy!

    The first being a Shin Soo Choo bat, this was used last september and it was also MLB Authenticated(MT00411036) for those that want to verify. In this case the photos on Getty actually match up to the date listed by MLB. You can see on the back of the barrell 2 of the 3 distinct marks on the bat, the 3rd mark near the end may have been the one that actually broke the bat into 2 seperate pieces. There are also marks just below the name labeling on the front side of the bat, these match up with the photos as you can see.





    My second "Photo-Match" is a Greg Dobbs bat that was used sometime last year, the photo shows it in use during a game vs. the Athletics. There aren't many photos of Dobbs so this was a tough match to find.



    Here's a closeup of the bat from the photo


    The photo of the back of my Dobbs bat

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    Beautiful matches!!

 

 

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