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    A Primer on Rawlings Tagging - 60's-00's

    This applies to MLB jerseys only.



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    Re: A Primer on Rawlings Tagging - 60's-00's

    Rudy,- Thanks. Can I ask about the set tags themselves? I often see that in the "2000-?" labeling, there are some that are positioned along the bottom of the label and sometimes along the right side. Any significance to that? Is the tagging(including extra length tags) applied at a different time than the main label?
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    Re: A Primer on Rawlings Tagging - 60's-00's

    Robert,

    re: the positioning of the set tag on circa 2000+ Rawlings tags.
    I don't know. I would need to compile as many circia 2000+ tags as possible and start to see if there's any chronological pattern in terms of the positioning. I haven't done this. It's possible that the positioning is related to a deliberate Rawlings decision at a specific point in time. It's also possible it's entirely random. I haven't done the research to determine which it is.

    re: when the extra flag tags are applied.
    To my knowledge they are applied at the factory, by Rawlings. A simple examination of the stitching would suggest the flag tags are technically applied before the main tag as they are actually sewed underneath the main tag. (The only way to sew the flag tags underneath the main tag would be to place them on the jersey first and then sew the main tag on top of them).

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    Smile Re: Rawlings Tagging -

    Hi,

    This may be off this topic. I have a 2 Rawlings College baseball game used player jersey. I am trying to figure out the year it is from. No Year tags on both. No name on back of each jersey. I think the wash tags may help.

    03K Adult WKBDS WPL 3957 CA 21081 MADE IN THE USA.
    Rawlings The Mark of a Pro L (Large) tag. R logo circle left sleeve.

    03B (2nd jersey) Rawlings logo script in blue left sleeve. One tag front size Adult 44 back wash tags.

    I am thinking 03K & 03B is the codes for the year and month. Please help. Thanks B.F.

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    Re: A Primer on Rawlings Tagging - 60's-00's

    Just wanted to add to the 1990 style tagging used on some 1989 jerseys discussion above. Below is a photo of a 1989 Jay Aldrich Milwaukee Brewers jersey, which contains the 1990 style tag.

    As an update by Rudy in a recent thread indicates, the tag style change appears to occured mid-year so late season callups may likely have the new tagging.

    email is matmuell at umich.edu

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    1972 Rawlings jersey laundry tag

    I'm looking for examples of laundry tags included in 1972 Rawlings jerseys to help me prove or disprove a theory. I recently acquired a group of older Cardinals jerseys and noticed the laundry tag in one was worded differently than any I'd seen before. This particular jersey didn't have a year flag (not unusual on '71-'72 Cardinals jerseys), but it was worn by Ed Crosby, who played for the Cards in '72 but not '71. I think it's possible that 1972 Rawlings jerseys have a unique laundry tag -- and if they do, it would make it possible to differentiate a '71 shirt from a '72 shirt even if they don't have year flags.

    Note: The Cardinals wore flannel through the '70 season. 1971 was the first year for knits. Their jerseys had crew necks in 1971-72; by 1973, they switched to a "V" neck. In 1973, Rawlings eliminated the separate laundry tag and included washing instructions on its regular red tag.

    Here's a shot of three tags from 1971-72 era Cardinals jerseys. The top one has a laundry tag with "traditional" wording (i.e., used during the late '60s through at least '71) and no year flag. The middle jersey has the "nontraditional" wording and no year flag. The bottom one has both the traditional wording and a '71 year flag.



    The "traditional" wording is: "DO NOT DRY CLEAN. Wash in lukewarm water, 100 F, with mild soap. Do not use bleach. Do not use automatic dryer."

    The "nontraditional" wording is: WASH IN COLD WATER. Use mild soap. Do not dry clean. Do not use bleach or automatic dryer."

    It may be telling that the recommended water temperature was changed from "lukewarm (100 degrees)" to "cold." On 1973 tags, the instructions call for "cold" water. Maybe somebody realized that knits needed to be washed in colder water than flannels, so the laundry instructions that carried over from '70 (flannel) to '71 (knit) needed to be changed.

    If you have a Rawlings jersey that can be pinpointed to 1972, I'd appreciate it if you could share photos of the laundry tag. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mattmueller View Post
    Just wanted to add to the 1990 style tagging used on some 1989 jerseys discussion above. Below is a photo of a 1989 Jay Aldrich Milwaukee Brewers jersey, which contains the 1990 style tag.

    As an update by Rudy in a recent thread indicates, the tag style change appears to occured mid-year so late season callups may likely have the new tagging.

    I have also seen the 1990-91 Rawlings tag on a couple of common Mets gamers from 1989. It's very rare, but can happen once in a blue moon. Just remember that ALL 1989 Score Board retail jerseys use the 1990-91 style tag, so any stars with them should be considered suspect and should be checked on to see if Score Board issued jerseys of that player.

    Dave Miedema

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    Re:Rudy-Rawlings tagging in question...

    Rudy:
    I have owned several 1989 Schmidt's, and this is the first 1989 (his final season) I have sen with the post 1989 Rawlings tagging. According to your info, this 1989 gamer has the 1990 tagging. I agree with you! How could Schmidt have worn a "1989" jersey with 1990 tagging?

    http://vintageauthentics.at.truition...aunbr=66662367

    HHHMMMM.....

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    Re: A Primer on Rawlings Tagging - 60's-00's

    Rudy-
    After closer examination, take a look at the S in Schmidt on the nameplate. The bottom of the S is totally incorrect with the standard letters used by the Phillies. It is not cut correctly!

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    Re: A Primer on Rawlings Tagging - 60's-00's

    Just so people don't think I concoct those tagging primers while I'm inebriated, see the image below for numerous examples of 1988-89 style Rawlings tags all with a 1989 flag tag. While I admit I could always be wrong with the years, I do put a good amount of work into them and only decide on a year after I've seen an overwhelming amount of evidence.
    I have seen less than 5 1990-91 style Rawlings tags with 1989 flag tags. They have always been on superstar jerseys - Schmidt, Griffey, Ripken, etc. The last one was on a Royals Bo Jackson jersey that sold for
    over $1800. I've never seen one on a common player. Speaking of which, take a look at the $110 Steve Jeltz 1989 Philles jersey below. It shows the correct 1988-89 era Rawlings tag. Why, in 1989, did Steve Jeltz get an older tag while the Vintage Authentics Mike Schmidt got a new tag? (And why is Jeltz not strip-tagged with a name?)



    It would be entirely legit to see a 1990 flag tag on an 1988/89 Rawlings tag. (Old stock gets issued). But it doesn't seem logical to see a 1989 flag tag on a 1990/91 Rawlings tag. While it's possible that my years are wrong and Rawlings introduced that 90/91 style in 1989, the fact is that an overwhelming number of 1989 jerseys I've seen have had 88/89 style tagging. It's hard to imagine that such a large number of jerseys from across the entire Major Leagues are using old stock, while a tiny minority of jerseys are new stock.
    And yes, I concur on the "S" in Schmidt. It's crooked. The other thing I noticed was that the Rawlings tag is double-stitched at the bottom. I've never seen that before.

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