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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    I see this one differently. The only substantial deviation from the game photos is the decal on the rear bumper. It may have been removed for anonymity for the Pro Bowl, been added specifically for the Pro Bowl or potentially even removed entirely (original label) and then added as an afterthought (current label).

    I believe the face mask was changed specifically for the Pro Bowl game (I own a helmet to which this was also done). It certainly appears that the silver screws adjacent to the Riddell label match the photos from the February 1996 contest (they appear to be black during the 1995 reg. season). The straps and mouth piece are consistent with the Pro Bowl photos. I like the labels on the back, and believe that the dark markings around (and underneath) the warning label are present in many game photos during the 1995 season.

    I wouldn't fret over the shortened striping at the front of the helmet. I think this is common with many taped stripes on older helmets.

    If I were considering the lid, I'd confirm all of the date identifiers before bidding. However, I don't share the same concerns expressed in this thread. I like it and believe it to be authentic. Again, just another man's opinion. Best of luck to those who chase it!

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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by JDubbs73 View Post
    I see this one differently. The only substantial deviation from the game photos is the decal on the rear bumper. It may have been removed for anonymity for the Pro Bowl, been added specifically for the Pro Bowl or potentially even removed entirely (original label) and then added as an afterthought (current label).

    I believe the face mask was changed specifically for the Pro Bowl game (I own a helmet to which this was also done). It certainly appears that the silver screws adjacent to the Riddell label match the photos from the February 1996 contest (they appear to be black during the 1995 reg. season). The straps and mouth piece are consistent with the Pro Bowl photos. I like the labels on the back, and believe that the dark markings around (and underneath) the warning label are present in many game photos during the 1995 season.

    I wouldn't fret over the shortened striping at the front of the helmet. I think this is common with many taped stripes on older helmets.

    If I were considering the lid, I'd confirm all of the date identifiers before bidding. However, I don't share the same concerns expressed in this thread. I like it and believe it to be authentic. Again, just another man's opinion. Best of luck to those who chase it!
    Jason,

    why not worry about the short stripes above the Riddell plate on the front?! Short stripes like that NEVER appear in any 1995 game photos or in the 1996 Pro Bowl... That makes it IMPOSSIBLE to be regular season or Pro Bowl worn especially if it was supposedly given to Reggie after the game (that means the striped would've never had time to be changed by the equipment room)... Then on top of that the rear bumper decal... too much just doesn't add up for me to ever feel comfortable with it... Just too many Bad Barry Sanders items popping up in the hobby lately. This is just my opinion though...
    If you would, please post pics of what black marks that you feel line up... I'm very curious to see what you are referring to.
    Also, I feel that the mouth piece on the helmet being auctioned looks BRAND NEW...
    Thanks so much,
    Jay

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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    I truly appreciate everyone's responses!!! Very interesting!

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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by VISUALCONCEPTSNJ View Post
    If you would, please post pics of what black marks that you feel line up... I'm very curious to see what you are referring to.
    The photos below represent the markings to which I referred earlier. I, personally, feel like they are consistent with the helmet offered. The photos represent games from October (Redskins), November (Bears away) and December (Bears home) of 1995.
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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by JDubbs73 View Post
    The photos below represent the markings to which I referred earlier. I, personally, feel like they are consistent with the helmet offered. The photos represent games from October (Redskins), November (Bears away) and December (Bears home) of 1995.
    Jason... With the photos that you provided, you actually just helped prove my point even further...

    Have a look at how far the Lion's front paw is from the face mask and the rivet in the helmet that you circled. The lion is MUCH higher in the game photos than on this helmet...

    The NFL shield on the back of the helmet is much higher on the helmet in the game pics as well (PIC WHERE BARRY IS GETTING HIS SNEAKER CLEANED OUT)...

    Also, Reggie White trimmed the front stripes after Barry supposedly gave him the helmet?!?! Really??? LOL

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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    Jay, like I said previously, I respect your opinion and position. I would expect the same courtesy, even if you disagree with mine.

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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by JDubbs73 View Post
    Jay, like I said previously, I respect your opinion and position. I would expect the same courtesy, even if you disagree with mine.
    I absolutely respect and appreciate your opinion and position as well as everyone else's on this forum... I will not speak anymore on this helmet... This will be my last response to it but I would like to leave you with just one last thing to think about...
    I think with the picture that you provided with the lion's paw placement had a lot to do with the angle that the photo was taken at. If you look at Barry directly from the side during the Pro Bowl game, you can see it is much further away...

    Once again, I only try to respectfully help... and Congrats to whoever wins the helmet.

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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by VISUALCONCEPTSNJ View Post
    I absolutely respect and appreciate your opinion and position as well as everyone else's on this forum... I will not speak anymore on this helmet... This will be my last response to it but I would like to leave you with just one last thing to think about...
    I think with the picture that you provided with the lion's paw placement had a lot to do with the angle that the photo was taken at. If you look at Barry directly from the side during the Pro Bowl game, you can see it is much further away...

    Once again, I only try to respectfully help... and Congrats to whoever wins the helmet.
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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by VISUALCONCEPTSNJ View Post
    I absolutely respect and appreciate your opinion and position as well as everyone else's on this forum...
    Thanks, Jay. I appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by VISUALCONCEPTSNJ View Post
    That is NOT a hit mark below the Lion's paw... It's a rivet in the helmet which is on ALL of them...
    FWIW, I was referring to the scratch or mark immediately adjacent to the rivet. This, too, will be my last post on this thread. Best of luck!

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    Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

    Quote Originally Posted by JDubbs73 View Post
    I see this one differently. The only substantial deviation from the game photos is the decal on the rear bumper. It may have been removed for anonymity for the Pro Bowl, been added specifically for the Pro Bowl or potentially even removed entirely (original label) and then added as an afterthought (current label).

    I believe the face mask was changed specifically for the Pro Bowl game (I own a helmet to which this was also done). It certainly appears that the silver screws adjacent to the Riddell label match the photos from the February 1996 contest (they appear to be black during the 1995 reg. season). The straps and mouth piece are consistent with the Pro Bowl photos. I like the labels on the back, and believe that the dark markings around (and underneath) the warning label are present in many game photos during the 1995 season.

    I wouldn't fret over the shortened striping at the front of the helmet. I think this is common with many taped stripes on older helmets.

    If I were considering the lid, I'd confirm all of the date identifiers before bidding. However, I don't share the same concerns expressed in this thread. I like it and believe it to be authentic. Again, just another man's opinion. Best of luck to those who chase it!
    I totally understand that certain parts of helmets can be changed during the course of the season… but look how many inconsistencies are present from October of 1995…
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