Milwaukee Braves / Hank Aaron batting helmet question

[dwight24]

The post card I mentioned is not so much a post card, but rather a smallish piece of paper that is typed. The signature is "Jim" only, not the entire name. I was told that the Jim Bibby items each came had these pieces of paper coming with them. The sense I was given was that these were more for Jim Bibby's records and not for any reason of provenance. I was told that some of these were fully signed, some innitialed, and some not signed at all by Bibby. If the seller wanted to fake this piece of the item, I would have thought he would have at least signed his entire name.

[Tay1038]

Take it for what it's worth. If this is the same seller as I remember; he has sold a number of big name player helmets in the past. All for low, low proces. Two that I can think of off the top of my head: Killebrew and Koufax. Killebrew went for $500.

I followed the seller for roughly two months to see what else he sold and remember seeing him sell mutliple ABC helmets with no paint job or team representation. Just a basic blank ABC authentic helmet. They all had the proper tagging inside.

While doing some additional research I also found a company that massed produced fiberglass batting helmets back in the 80's I believe. Maybe the early 90's. Somewhat like the TriStar Hidden Treasures deal. They made a bunch of batting helmets and put them in packages for the public to buy. I'll do some research tonight to see if I can locate what I found before.

I'm not passing any opinion on this seller; just the facts on what I saw on eBay.

[Tay1038]

Yikes on the spelling error guys! My bad.

[commando]

I can tell you from years of experience, the "Jim" letter will not be a factor here. It just kinda is what it is. A good start would be to keep looking for a photo match, or at least a style match that shows these stenciled white numerals were ever worn on Milwaukee helmets.

You can return the helmet if you're not comfortable (Ebay does allow you to, regardless of what the seller says), but you'll have to do it in a reasonable timeframe.

[dwight24]

First off, THANK YOU to all of the people taking part in this thread. All of your comments are greatly appreciated.

I just received the helmet today, and the ABC sticker, in fact, is not correct. I have a mid-late '50s helmet which doesn't have a zip code for the ABC company (since this was before zip codes were invented) and a late '60s helmet with the ABC sticker showing zip code and a pattent number that was issued in 1965.

The ABC sticker in the Hank Aaron helmet conveniently has the bottom portion of the sticker removed (where the zip code would or would not be given), and the pattent numbers are scratched out/marked over by black marker. This sticker is most definately a later '60s sticker, if not later. Darn those fuzzy pictures on eBay!

I've contacted the seller and am asking for a refund. If I don't hear from the seller within 24 hours, I'll go through eBay's resolution center.

Again, thank you all!

Mel

[momen55]

that is a 60's helmet. a friend has a helmet from the 60's and the sticker is identical.

[dwight24]

Just to wrap this up...

someone was kind enough to send me a link to an eBay auction that this seller won about 6 weeks ago. It is the exact same helmet, but was all blue, and the sticker not tampered with. Identical padding creases, paint marks on the inside. Exact same helmet. He then obviously modified it to make it look like a Milwaukee Brewers helmet and put it up as a Hank Aaron helmet.

Seller says he will refund my money.

Thanks to all who helped out.

Mel

[momen55]

Just to wrap this up...

someone was kind enough to send me a link to an eBay auction that this seller won about 6 weeks ago. It is the exact same helmet, but was all blue, and the sticker not tampered with. Identical padding creases, paint marks on the inside. Exact same helmet. He then obviously modified it to make it look like a Milwaukee Brewers helmet and put it up as a Hank Aaron helmet.

Seller says he will refund my money.

Thanks to all who helped out.

Mel

what is the link mel? i'd like to see it.

[dwight24]

Here is the link to the auction that includes the helmet I now have.

I'm also adding an inside pic of my helmet so you can compare it with the inside pic from the eBay auction. Exact match.

Mel


http://www.ebay.com/itm/151002869869...#ht_559wt_1228