Brady issued or just pro cut?

[respo]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/230716259213...9#ht_567wt_936

I thought the pats jerseys were made in NY and not berlin? and also the reebok jock tag are usually sewn in the collar on the pats jerseys. anyone know for sure?

[Mulligans]

If you look at the Pats Jerseys from the last few years, you are correct, but I have yet to see an example of a 2011 Pats Jersey to see if something has changed?

This one looks like one of those "Hybrid Game Cuts" that we are always discussing......probably not issued to the team. Because of a special set of rib pads, TB no longer wears elastic in the waist band (unless that has also changed in 2011)....Either way, still a good looking Jersey!

[trsent]

http://www.nflauction.nfl.com/cgi-bi...unbr=171356362

Here is an example of a similar jersey in NFL Auctions from the 2011 New England Patriots. Look at the photo with the neck tagging - See that "11-48 Q" tagging? That is the tagging style used in Berlin, WI. The New York style tagging uses year tagging on the bottom manufacture flag tag.

[DoctorLoomis]

Hey guys, I am 99.999% certain that Pats jerseys are now made by Ripon in Berlin, Wi. Sort of like the Titans....they were made by Ripon but now are made by Wilson. I suppose Reebok decided to move the contracts for some reason.......

[Mulligans]

Doc....you gotta tell us where you got the info on the change of supplier....I was under the impression that the Pats were still wearing last years jerseys and they were definitely not tagged like this. I have seen 09 and 10 Pats Jerseys but I have yet to see a 2011. In 2009 and 2010 I believe they were tagged on the tail and they were not from Berlin.

[trsent]

Doc....you gotta tell us where you got the info on the change of supplier....I was under the impression that the Pats were still wearing last years jerseys and they were definitely not tagged like this. I have seen 09 and 10 Pats Jerseys but I have yet to see a 2011. In 2009 and 2010 I believe they were tagged on the tail and they were not from Berlin.

From the homework I have done since the original posting about this jersey, I have also been told the 2009 and 2010 jerseys were of the non-Made in Berlin, WI USA variety.

If you believe the 2011 jerseys are also of this variety, how do you explain the game issued pro-cut jersey I posted a link to above currently in NFL Auctions? That jersey is 100% Made in Berlin, WI USA as the other variety doesn't have the neck tags that jersey has.

The jerseys I am currently selling are the same game issued pro-cut jerseys that NFL Auctions sells. These are 100% original jerseys right from Reebok. Nothing added, nothing altered. This is how they come from Reebok.

[Mulligans]

I didn't know that it was your Jersey but the Merriweather you referenced on NFL Auctions says that it is an "Authentic Jersey".....not pro cut or game issued as you reference to your Brady listing.

How could you call this Tom Brady Jersey a "Game Issue" Jersey? Is that really what you think it is? A TB Jersey is not cut like that? Just because it has tagging in the collar does not mean that it is a Game issued jersey......I guess I dont agree with your definition of a game issued Jersey and I know that there are many different interpretations out there.

[trsent]

I didn't know that it was your Jersey but the Merriweather you referenced on NFL Auctions says that it is an "Authentic Jersey".....not pro cut or game issued as you reference to your Brady listing.

How could you call this Tom Brady Jersey a "Game Issue" Jersey? Is that really what you think it is? A TB Jersey is not cut like that? Just because it has tagging in the collar does not mean that it is a Game issued jersey......I guess I dont agree with your definition of a game issued Jersey and I know that there are many different interpretations out there.

The Meriwether is a pro-cut game issued jersey just like mine. They called it an authentic, but it is tagged for game use. If you look at all my eBay listings, each and every jersey is called game issued pro-cut which means a jersey issued for game use and tagged for game use.

They always are not identical to game used jerseys, as often they are not custom cut or hemmed, but many are and this is exactly how they are ordered by NFL teams and are delivered to NFL teams from Reebok.

Speculation can be whatever anyone wishes, but a "game issued" jersey is a jersey issued for potential game use. A "team issued" jersey is a jersey issued by the team for game use. I do not believe any of the jerseys I am selling were team issued, just game issued pro-cuts which is how I have advertised them.

The jerseys all come right from Reebok. Nothing added, nothing removed, nothing altered. This is exactly how the come from Reebok.

I have been harassed by a few people via eBay's email system asking if I am customizing jerseys and I can 100% clearly state that no one is customizing these jerseys other than Reebok. This is how the came from the factory as game issued pro-cuts.