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  1. #1
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    Re: Historic Auctions has launched.......

    what up,

    i don't know if these are the same companies or not, but regardless, this auction will be awesome.

    obeyone, please continue to talk so i can get these jerseys without competition. maybe you'll scare away other bidders and we can keep these deals to ourselves!!!


    PS - did you guys see that walter peyton jersey!!! sick!!!!!

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    Thumbs up Re: Historic Auctions has launched.......

    Received the SCD with the Historic Auction catalouge and noitced a Ben Roethlisberger gamer...went to check on-line the other day and no Roethlisberger jersey???? Anyone know why? I emailed Historic and no response...typical auction house...poor professionalism! Moreover, the jersey was autogrpahed on the back #7 and I thought it bore a striking resemblance to a PSA/DNA NFL Auction jersey, but that's just my opinion....

  3. #3
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    Re: Historic Auctions has launched.......

    Hi everybody,

    I want to preface this by saying I have not seen the Felix Potvin Toronto Maple Leafs jersey up close, nor has Heritage Auctions asked MeiGray to authenticate it.

    But I would hesitate to bid on this blue Potvin jersey based on two obvious problems I see that need to be researched more exhaustively:

    1) In 1991-92, every NHL game-worn jersey was supposed to be worn with an NHL shield next to a larger CCM logo on the right back hip. The small CCM logo and absence of shield dates this jersey to the late 1980s, perhaps 1989-90 ... but no later.

    2) In 1991-92, every NHL game-worn jersey was supposed to be worn on ice with an NHL 75th anniversary patch on the front of the jersey.

    This jersey up for auction has neither.

    Now this jersey is described in the auction has being Potvin's first professional gamer. In that case, photos or video should be available to see if Potvin wore this jersey with two obvious discrepancies.

    Without specific indications on a letter of authenticity that these two obvious oversights are explainable, or visible in a photo or video of Potvin in his first NHL games, I would not bid on this jersey.

    Now there are other possibilities. The description states that the jersey came directly from the Toronto Maple Leafs (is there a team letter or receipt to back this claim?) It is possible this is a recycled jersey used by Potvin in an NHL pre-season. This is not an unusual occurence, but needs to be researched, as well.

    And that fact would refute the claim that this is his first professional jersey, a claim that should not be made without hard facts.

    This is only a small example of why MeiGray, and MeiGray Vintage has ventured to upgrade the level of authentication in the sports-collecting hobby.

    No credible authenticator should allow these obvious "problems" or "questions" to go unanswered. Allowing an item like this to go into an auction without answering those questions is irresponsible.

    And if those questions have been answered, why are they not in the jersey description?

    If the authenticator did not answer those questions, or explain those problems, that jersey has not received a thorough authentication. And if the authenticator is not aware of the NHL shield and NHL 75th patch issues from 1991-92 to raise the question, the authenticator lacks the expertise to authenticate NHL jerseys, because this is an elementary fact of NHL jerseys.

    Respectfully,

    Barry Meisel

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    Re: Historic Auctions has launched.......

    Just a reminder, please do not use any profanities on this website. Foul language will not be tolerated.

    Thank you in advance for your cooperation.

    Sincerely,
    Christopher Cavalier
    CEO - Game Used Universe

 

 

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