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From my memory, we did sit in those seats, basically just to say we did, and they had painted numbers on the seat back (facing out to be seen, where your back would rest). I also remember the views from up there were horrible and it was rare anyone was ever sitting up there anyway!
That's neat to be able to say you sat in those seats; I wish I could have. :)
What I'm curious about is that if these numbers were painted on seats, why my Bagwell marker looks nothing like a seat back?
I'd love to hear more about these, as my Bagwell home run marker is one of the more intriguing items I own.
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frikativ54
That's neat to be able to say you sat in those seats; I wish I could have. :)
What I'm curious about is that if these numbers were painted on seats, why my Bagwell marker looks nothing like a seat back?
I'd love to hear more about these, as my Bagwell home run marker is one of the more intriguing items I own.
You know, I noticed your sign looked metal and thought that was intriguing. I only personally saw seats that were painted into the early 80's. By the late 80's-90's when I went, I actually was watching the game and not running to the upper deck :), so I never saw Bags HR markers. I did some research, and found this list of players that hit them into the upper deck at Three Rivers:
- 1: Willie Stargell - 8/9/70 off Mets' Ron Taylor (RF) 469'
- 2: Willie Stargell - 5/30/71 off Cubs' Ken Holtzman (RF) 458'
- 3: Willie Stargell - 6/20/71 off Expos' Howie Reed (RF) 472'
- 4: Bob Robertson - 7/16/71 off Padres' Steve Arlin (LF) 456'
- 5: Willie Stargell - 5/31/73 off Braves' Gary Gentry (RF) 468'
- 6: Greg Luzinski - 4/18/79 off Pirates' Don Robinson (LF) 483'
- 7: Bobby Bonilla - 7/12/87 off Padres' Eric Show (RF) 454'
- 8: Howard Johnson - 4/15/91 off Pirates' Zane Smith (LF) 456'
- 9: Jeff Bagwell - 5/5/91 off Pirates' Bob Kipper (LF) 472'
- 10: Mark Whiten - 8/11/93 off Pirates' Blas Minor (RF) 464'
- 11: Glenallen Hill - 5/6/94 off Pirates' Denny Neagle (LF) 457'
- *: Frank Thomas - 7/11/94 in all star home run hitting contest (LCF) 519'
- 12: Jeff Bagwell - 5/29/96 off Pirates' Danny Darwin (LF) 459'
- 13: Devon White - 6/16/96 off Pirates' Denny Neagle (LF-facade) 456'
I also was able to find this photo, (the only one I could find on the internet) of a painted seat. It is above the numbered facade, to the right and is painted black with a white number. Kind of hard to see, but you can notice it if you look hard enough:
My thoughts are maybe "Bags" hit the concrete facade, and they attached a metal marker up there instead, because it did not land in a seat. I know at the Vet in Philly, they installed a marker for "Pops" moon shot (top right):
It was fun looking this up, and taking a trip down memory lane!
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Sorry, for some reason the photos did not post:
I also was able to find this photo, (the only one I could find on the internet) of a painted seat. It is above the numbered facade, to the right and is painted black with a white number. Kind of hard to see, but you can notice it if you look hard enough: (picture 1)
My thoughts are maybe "Bags" hit the concrete facade, and they attached a metal marker up there instead, because it did not land in a seat. I know at the Vet in Philly, they installed a marker for "Pops" moon shot (top right): (picture 2)
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If you're looking to add to your Pirates collection...or to start one, please see my thread in the c2c section. I'm liquidating the collection. There are Pirates jerseys available.
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Some bats from 3 different Pirate eras:
'09 Andrew McCutchen
'88-'89 Barry Bonds
'79 Willie Stargell
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Some bats from 3 different Pirate eras:
'09 Andrew McCutchen
'88-'89 Barry Bonds
'79 Willie Stargell
Very nice bats spanning 30 years of Buccos history.
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Sorry, for some reason the photos did not post:
My thoughts are maybe "Bags" hit the concrete facade, and they attached a metal marker up there instead, because it did not land in a seat. I know at the Vet in Philly, they installed a marker for "Pops" moon shot (top right): (picture 2)
You are spot on.
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Some bats from 3 different Pirate eras:
'09 Andrew McCutchen
'88-'89 Barry Bonds
'79 Willie Stargell
Players one and three are beautiful bats and represent some of the best of Buccos baseball. Number two...not so much.
Still, what an awesome collection of lumber you have there!
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To answer my last reply before having to justify it, I meant how Pops and Cutch carry themselves with dignity on and off the field, as opposed to Bonds. He was an arrogant pr!ck in the 'Burg way before he went from Bruce Banner to the Incredible Hulk out west.
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Just realized even though I showed a photo of The Cobra from his signing, I never showed the actual signed 8x10. He was very cool about personalizing, for free no less!
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You know, I noticed your sign looked metal and thought that was intriguing. I only personally saw seats that were painted into the early 80's. By the late 80's-90's when I went, I actually was watching the game and not running to the upper deck :), so I never saw Bags HR markers. I did some research, and found this list of players that hit them into the upper deck at Three Rivers:
- 1: Willie Stargell - 8/9/70 off Mets' Ron Taylor (RF) 469'
- 2: Willie Stargell - 5/30/71 off Cubs' Ken Holtzman (RF) 458'
- 3: Willie Stargell - 6/20/71 off Expos' Howie Reed (RF) 472'
- 4: Bob Robertson - 7/16/71 off Padres' Steve Arlin (LF) 456'
- 5: Willie Stargell - 5/31/73 off Braves' Gary Gentry (RF) 468'
- 6: Greg Luzinski - 4/18/79 off Pirates' Don Robinson (LF) 483'
- 7: Bobby Bonilla - 7/12/87 off Padres' Eric Show (RF) 454'
- 8: Howard Johnson - 4/15/91 off Pirates' Zane Smith (LF) 456'
- 9: Jeff Bagwell - 5/5/91 off Pirates' Bob Kipper (LF) 472'
- 10: Mark Whiten - 8/11/93 off Pirates' Blas Minor (RF) 464'
- 11: Glenallen Hill - 5/6/94 off Pirates' Denny Neagle (LF) 457'
- *: Frank Thomas - 7/11/94 in all star home run hitting contest (LCF) 519'
- 12: Jeff Bagwell - 5/29/96 off Pirates' Danny Darwin (LF) 459'
- 13: Devon White - 6/16/96 off Pirates' Denny Neagle (LF-facade) 456'
I also was able to find this photo, (the only one I could find on the internet) of a painted seat. It is above the numbered facade, to the right and is painted black with a white number. Kind of hard to see, but you can notice it if you look hard enough:
My thoughts are maybe "Bags" hit the concrete facade, and they attached a metal marker up there instead, because it did not land in a seat. I know at the Vet in Philly, they installed a marker for "Pops" moon shot (top right):
It was fun looking this up, and taking a trip down memory lane!
Thanks for all that info. I've had fun researching it as well. I wish I could have grown up in a city that had the amount of baseball history as Pittsburgh. I grew up in the suburbs of Seattle, so my first baseball memories were of the Kingdome - nothing to brag about. :o
I'll bet you're right about the concrete facade. I would love to find other pictures of the HR markers at Three Rivers. Now that the stadium is gone, I'm not sure where to look. Since you are a Pirates fan and are versed in this kind of stuff, where would you recommend that I look?
-Frik
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Thanks for all that info. I've had fun researching it as well. I wish I could have grown up in a city that had the amount of baseball history as Pittsburgh. I grew up in the suburbs of Seattle, so my first baseball memories were of the Kingdome - nothing to brag about. :o
I'll bet you're right about the concrete facade. I would love to find other pictures of the HR markers at Three Rivers. Now that the stadium is gone, I'm not sure where to look. Since you are a Pirates fan and are versed in this kind of stuff, where would you recommend that I look?
-Frik
Ironically, the closet stadium I now live near is Seattle's Safeco field, about 3 hours north from me! I will tell you, it was not easy finding the data I found on those HR markers. I looked at ALOT of old stadium sites and PA historical sites for information. Sadly, for a place that was around for 30 years, they sure did not document Three Rivers very well. I am just as guilty, because I guess you assume it will always be there. I wish I had saved my programs from my youth, but they have been long gone due to way too many moves. You might start there, with old programs and media guides. They may be of some use and I am sure fairly cheap.
I did, however, dig up some photos I took at games from my youth.
The first one is Rick Rhoden talking on the mound to Tony Pena, I would say 1983-especially judging by the clothes in the crowd!
The second is of a Steelers-Chiefs game in 1984, where Pittsburgh had a FG blocked for a TD, Kickoff and punt returns on them as well. Sad...
The third photo is of a much younger me before the 1992 NLCS vs ATL, and the Buccos did win that one!
The last shoot is actually awesome, because I had the wherewithal to take a photo of the outside of Three Rivers Stadium!
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Just wanted to write that the FIRST PLACE PIRATES take on the Astros today! It just feels good to write that again, 14 years later!
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Just wanted to write that the FIRST PLACE PIRATES take on the Astros today! It just feels good to write that again, 14 years later!
Sincerely, I hope they make the playoffs...it's about time Pirates fans had something to feel good about.
Dave Miedema:D
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Since you are a Pirates fan and are versed in this kind of stuff, where would you recommend that I look?
-Frik
Hey Frik,
Well, I found out, unbeknownst to me, my Dad still had a saved a program from one of the games we attended in '86! I earlier showed picts of inside Three Rivers from that game below, against Philly. Sadly, they do not even talk about the HR markers-even then! I did however, find out a fact I never realized: Jason Thompson of the Buccos was only the 7th player in MLB history (then) to hit 100 or more HRs in each league. Wow, how times have changed ;).
Here is the cover:
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Pittsburgh-Pi...g%7E%7E_12.JPG
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@Chuck, awesome jerseys! I love the throwback 70s stripe one, lost an auction for one of those myself awhile back. Also miss the grey road stripes as well. Nice collection.
A shame the Buccos were on the wrong end of a miserable call last night in that 19 inning epic vs ATL.
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I got ahold of this orange seatback from Three Rivers, with Jay Bell's Pittsburgh number, '3', on it, made a sort of collage, and got Jay to sign and inscribe it for me a few years ago.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8...D550/ry%3D400/
No photo immediately available, but I've also got Jay's field jacket from the '94 season.
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Thanks Shipp!
Man we got so screwed on that call last night. Let's take the next 2 off Atlanta then 2 of 3 from the Phils to make up for it! :)
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Thanks Shipp!
Man we got so screwed on that call last night. Let's take the next 2 off Atlanta then 2 of 3 from the Phils to make up for it! :)
Who wore that white pinstripe jersey of yours?
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Who wore that white pinstripe jersey of yours?
You're back, Lastings!!!! Howdy. :)
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Hey Lastings,
It was a blank so there is no number. Actually, come to think of it, none of those jerseys have numbers on them. I may have to change that :)
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Thanks Shipp!
Man we got so screwed on that call last night. Let's take the next 2 off Atlanta then 2 of 3 from the Phils to make up for it! :)
Yeah, there are bad calls and there was that one. Sadly, the lose last night took some wind out of the Buccos sails, because they just lost 2-1 in the bottom of the 10th (only) tonight.
I do hope they can continue their magic against Filth-a-delphia.
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I got ahold of this orange seatback from Three Rivers, with Jay Bell's Pittsburgh number, '3', on it, made a sort of collage, and got Jay to sign and inscribe it for me a few years ago.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47b8...D550/ry%3D400/
No photo immediately available, but I've also got Jay's field jacket from the '94 season.
I loved me some Jay Bell back in the day. I was glad he finally got his ring with Arizona. I still remember when he won his gold glove and broke the Wizard's strangle hold on the award at short. Nice seat and shot of Three Rivers!
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I was really happy to see the Buccos get a couple veteran bats, even if it were only marginal veteran players like Derrek Lee and Ryan Ludwick, for near nothing in return.
I know the critics will pan these moves (as I do to an extend on ownership's cheapness), but Lee is a MAJOR improvement from Overbay at first base and Ludwick will help solidify an outfield that already has studs like All Star Andrew McCutchen and Neil Walker.
At this point, ANY offense is a good offense for this team! I just fear too little to late, as it came after a rough Philly series.
Thank goodness the Cubs come to town, and I think a series sweep is realistic and can possibly propel them back into first by week's end!
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Though the Buccos are reverting back to the Succos and are about to be back to a .500 team, against the lowly Cubs no less, I still have hope.
Just added this bad boy to my collection, fan favorite Jack Wilson BP jersey!
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A nice historical piece, Pirates Jason Schmidt game worn jersey from 1997. I just LOVE this style with the pinstripes and cursive Pittsburgh font!
So, long and short of it, not only does it have the Jackie Robinson patch, but this was the LAST YEAR anyone could wear #42 in the MLB, before they retired the number. Jason was one of the LAST players (defiantly the last Pirate) to wear this number, before he was forced to switch (to #22, as is).
Great jersey from a great player, and a nice guy to boot from when I met him years ago!
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A nice historical piece, Pirates Jason Schmidt game worn jersey from 1997. I just LOVE this style with the pinstripes and cursive Pittsburgh font!
So, long and short of it, not only does it have the Jackie Robinson patch, but this was the LAST YEAR anyone could wear #42 in the MLB, before they retired the number. Jason was one of the LAST players (defiantly the last Pirate) to wear this number, before he was forced to switch (to #22, as is).
I thought players who were already wearing #42 could continue for the duration of their careers. Hence, Mariano Rivera. Where the Pirates different from other teams with regards to wearing Robinson's number?
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I thought players who were already wearing #42 could continue for the duration of their careers. Hence, Mariano Rivera. Where the Pirates different from other teams with regards to wearing Robinson's number?
I did some research, and found this out:
"When MLB decided to retire 42 in 1997, acting commissioner Bud Selig announced that to honor Jackie Robinson no player from now on will be issued the late Hall of Famer's number. However, the players who currently wear the number can keep it for the rest of their careers. The 12 major-league players wearing No. 42 as of Tuesday night:
Mo Vaughn, Boston
Butch Huskey, New York Mets
Tom Goodwin, Kansas City
Mariano Rivera, New York Yankees
Mike Jackson, Cleveland
Lenny Webster, Baltimore
Jason Schmidt, Pittsburgh
Jose Lima, Houston
Scott Karl, Milwaukee
Dennis Cook, Florida
Kirk Rueter, San Francisco
x-Marc Sagmoen, Texas
x-Sagmoen, who made his major-league debut Tuesday night, was randomly assigned 42 by the Rangers when he joined the team. After the game, he announced he would switch to No. 37 because he did not feel ``worthy'' to wear 42.
Jason Schmidt was the last player on the Pirates to wear number 42, as all of Major League Baseball retired it for Jackie Robinson in 1997. Schmidt then switched to number 22 for the remainder of his stay with the team, and has worn number 29 after leaving the Pirates."
It does not really say he was forced to switch, or did it by his own volition. Still a nice historical Buccos piece to own :).
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I thought players who were already wearing #42 could continue for the duration of their careers. Hence, Mariano Rivera. Where the Pirates different from other teams with regards to wearing Robinson's number?
The two Chicago teams had no regular season wearers of #42 in 1997. Roger McDowell wore #42 in spring training with the White Sox, but was cut, and the Cub that had #42, coach Dan Radison, voluntarily gave it up in favor of #3.
Dave Miedema
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The two Chicago teams had no regular season wearers of #42 in 1997. Roger McDowell wore #42 in spring training with the White Sox, but was cut, and the Cub that had #42, coach Dan Radison, voluntarily gave it up in favor of #3.
Dave Miedema
I'll bet there was a lot of pressure to switch numbers. Not sure I like the idea of all teams retiring #42. If so, why wasn't the honor extended to Clemente and #21?
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I'll bet there was a lot of pressure to switch numbers. Not sure I like the idea of all teams retiring #42. If so, why wasn't the honor extended to Clemente and #21?
Interesting argument, I read up on this and found the following information:
"Roberto Clemente was elected to the Hall of Fame posthumously in 1973, thus becoming the first Latin American to be selected and the only current Hall of Famer for whom the mandatory five-year waiting period has been waived since the wait was instituted in 1954. Clemente is also the first Hispanic player to win a World Series as a starter (1960), win a league MVP award (1966) and win a World Series MVP award (1971).
Clemente's #21 remains active in Major League Baseball, and is worn by multiple players. Sammy Sosa wore #21 throughout his career as a tribute to his childhood hero.[61] The number is unofficially retired in the Puerto Rico Baseball League. While the topic of retiring #21 throughout Major League Baseball like Jackie Robinson's #42 has been broached, and supported by groups such as Hispanics Across America, Jackie Robinson's daughter disagrees, believing that Major League Baseball should honor him another way."
I actually found that last sentence disturbing, and bordering on petty. So it's OK for you father to have this great honor bestowed upon him, but not Roberto, who was every bit as significant to the Latin community? I don't know if I agree with her vague reason, either.
But, maybe it is better that players can honor Roberto by wearing his number as opposed to retiring it league wide.
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Hi, I'm new here. I don't have any Pirate GU items but this is my favorite Pirate piece. I will be at PNC in two weeks for the first time. I haven't been to a game in Pittsburgh since 1985 or Cleveland since 1995. Games at Safeco have been excruciating to watch this year. I am certainly looking forward to seeing the Pirates and the Tribe.
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Hi, I'm new here. I don't have any Pirate GU items but this is my favorite Pirate piece. I will be at PNC in two weeks for the first time. I haven't been to a game in Pittsburgh since 1985 or Cleveland since 1995. Games at Safeco have been excruciating to watch this year. I am certainly looking forward to seeing the Pirates and the Tribe.
Welcome to the site! That is a great Roberto signed piece you have there. I myself have been to Safeco twice this year, and as bad it was, it doesn't compare to the cliff the Pirates have driven off since last weekend :(.
Wow, you went to your Pirate game nearly when I saw my first! I never made it out to PNC Park, either, and kind of regret not doing so now that I am on the west coast again. Enjoy your trip and make sure to share some pictures!
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[quote=frikativ54;261298]I'll bet there was a lot of pressure to switch numbers. Not sure I like the idea of all teams retiring #42. If so, why wasn't the honor extended to Clemente and #21?[/quote
For that matter, how about Babe Ruth's #3? After all, he only saved a sport seriously wounded by the Black Sox Scandal.
Dave Miedema
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Just wanted to post they FINALLY won after one of the more miserable 10 game losing streaks I have ever seen. Hopefully this can propel them back above .500 again. I refuse to believe the last four months prior to this was a mirage.
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Hi, I'm new here. I don't have any Pirate GU items but this is my favorite Pirate piece. I will be at PNC in two weeks for the first time. I haven't been to a game in Pittsburgh since 1985 or Cleveland since 1995. Games at Safeco have been excruciating to watch this year. I am certainly looking forward to seeing the Pirates and the Tribe.
I love that clemente poster, I remember passing it on ebay years ago, and Ill never forgive myself for it. If you ever want to sell it, please look me up, I would love to own it.
-Tony
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Just wanted to post they FINALLY won after one of the more miserable 10 game losing streaks I have ever seen. Hopefully this can propel them back above .500 again. I refuse to believe the last four months prior to this was a mirage.
I wish the Pirates luck. They have not been a winning team since I first started watching baseball.
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I wish the Pirates luck. They have not been a winning team since I first started watching baseball.
+1
Dave Miedema
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I love that clemente poster, I remember passing it on ebay years ago, and Ill never forgive myself for it. If you ever want to sell it, please look me up, I would love to own it.
-Tony
Thanks Tony I am showing my age but I picked it up for 300.00 in an auction about seven years prior to ebay existing. It was the first baseball item my wife agreed let me buy after we married. I was making 7.25 an hour and going to graduate school so even at 300 it was a major sacrafice. It is one of my favorite pieces for that reason. By the way I still have the wife as well;)
Mike