Only applies to MLB game jerseys.
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1848/russell8bt.jpg
Rudy.
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Only applies to MLB game jerseys.
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1848/russell8bt.jpg
Rudy.
Rudy-Does it matter where the set tags are placed-some at the bottom or to the right-on the label? Are the label,set tags,and extra length tags sewn at the same time?
Robert
That is some very good info. It is a primer and there are always exceptions to everything when dealing with jerseys. For example I have a 1993 gamer that has the "1992" style tagging. Probably a carryover, though I only have 1 from the team so I can't compare with others. I own 2 jerseys from 2001 and they have the "2000" style tagging, possible carryovers.
Here are 2 other examples I found, all of my jerseys are Seattle Mariners so they are my only comparison.
1996 Teal alternate jersey with the new wash instructions.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ers/1996RA.jpg
2004 Tagging Variation, Notice there is no eagle profile in the bottom part of the "R". It's only on 2 of the 2004's I own, the others are of the "2001-2005" style.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ers/2004RA.jpg
The last Russell tag photo in Spiezio's post debuted in 2004. The biggest change is obviously in the Russell Athletic logo. I believe the photo in Rudy's primer for 2001-2005 is actually correct for 2001-2003 only. There were no Russell jerseys worn past 2004, making the 2004 tag pictured in Spiezio's post a one year style tag.
hello,
Thanks for all the insightful comments. I've incorporated them into a revised version of the 'primer' and posted an updated image in place of the older one.
Swoboda: I believe the flag tags & set tags are sewn underneath the main manufacturers tag. This would mean that these tags would be sewn on first and the manufacturer label sewn on top. See my reply to your similar question regarding rawlings tags in the rawlings primer.
Spezio: I'm 'quite certain' that 1992 was the only year to incorporate that specific style of Russell tagging (with the "Major League Baseball" text), *unless Russell produced both styles simultaneously.*
I too have seen several 1993's and 1994's with the '1992' style tagging and simply assumed they were carry-overs. Carry-overs arent uncommon.
Same goes for your 2001's with 2000 style tagging. I have noticed carry-overs with Wilson and Rawlings jerseys as well. The majority of 2004's I've seen had 2001-2003 style tagging. Very few had the 2004 style you've shown. This simply indicates to me the prevalence of carryovers.
Rob: Good call. I don't know why i put 2005. Sloppyness I suppose. Majestic pretty much handled the entire MLB in 2005.
One of the main benefits of these primers is to help people identify fakes. It would be common, for example, to see 1993 jersey with 1992 style tagging or a 2004 jersey with 2001-2003 style tagging. It should be impossible to see a 1993 jersey with 1997-1999 style tagging. When I set out to do Russell tags, I thought it would be a pretty short list because the white Russell label always looked the same to me. Someone could've easily doctored up a 1997 jersey with a 1992 player name and I wouldn't have been able to tell the difference simply from the Russell tag alone. Now I can. While I agree with Spezio that 'there are exceptions', it's impossible to travel into the future so this primer should help detect jerseys with tags that don't match the era. (eg: a '1992' jersey with 1997 style tagging).
For those interested, when I make these, I try to collect as many tags as I can possibly find for each year. I typically end up with about 25 tags per year from both american league and national league teams. I organize them by year and then try to spot the changes and re-designs.
Rudy.
Rudy, in 2004 Russell changed there tags again, the ATHLETIC in Russell Athletic was changed in style and color.
Also, do not be surprised if a 2001-2003 jersey has a 2000 Russell tag or a 2004 Russell jersey has a 2001-2003 Russell tag, etc...
They don't care as much as we do!
Just to clarify, there were no Russell jerseys worn in the Major Leagues in 2005. Every team is now contractually obligated to wear Majestic jerseys.
Oh yeah, I edited my previous post, as I was half asleep when I posted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobSteinmetz
When you find a 2005 Russell, 1st email Rudy, then call Ghostbusters.
Who you gonna call?
Hello, I was wondering if a jersey had the correct tagging, but was missing the year tag, such as the year "2000" was missing, would that indicate it was a retail jersey.
Thanks,
Russell
russell,
on mlb russell jerseys, the use of year tags or strip tags are up to the discretion of the individual team. some teams used them, some don't. this can vary every year. what specific team and year are you referring to?
rudy.
I am looking at a Kansas City Royals Jersey that has tagging that matches the year 2000.
Thanks for the help,
Russell
russell,
the primer in this thread was solely meant to show different versions of the manufacturer's tag, not of any strip tags. as i said, strip tags are up to the discretion of the individual teams.
that said, i don't believe the kansas city royals used any strip/year tag on their jerseys in 2000. if you can post pics of your jersey, people on this forum could add more insight.
rudy.
I've seen a Red Sox jersey from 2004 and the year font was large and blocky (it almost takes up the whole year tag), not the typical small type font you normally see... is this legit?!?
Thanks
Would anyone out there have the Russell tagging for vintage professional football jerseys from the late 1960's through the 1980's?
If so, could you please post them.
Thanx
The Colorado Rockies are a PRIME example of this. Even jerseys from the SAME year for the Rockies have variances in the strip tags depending on what point in the year the jerseys were made and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjammy24
Speaking of the Rockies - and a VERY interesting point here - ALL Rockies Home White Russell jerseys (Regular or ALT) have unique buttons. Instead of the standard 'pearlescent white', the buttons are Cream colored with Colorado Rockies embossed around the edge.
Does anyone know if any other team did this with their jerseys? As far as I have ever been able to tell, this button thing is unique to the Rockies.
- Chris
Does anybody know if the Angels used strip tags on 1994 jerseys?
can someone repost the photo with the tagging. hopefully someone saved it. thanks
.Quote:
Originally Posted by joelsabi
thanks a bunch. i really like rudy's post. they are so helpful.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianK
if you're out there rudy, you are missed here.
Keep in mind, however, there are a lot of tag style carryovers on MLB Russell gamers, especially with the 1992 and 1993-94 tag designs.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrianK
Dave Miedema
I've never seen anyone other than the Rockies use those type of buttons during the Russell era. It was a nice touch by the team.
Also, for 1993 (inaugural season) Rockies gamers, at least 1 set of homes and roads was mad with retail collar size tags, no fabric content tag under the Russell label in the tail, and no strip tag. All were originally accompanied by team LOAs and these sets were bought from the Rockies in the mid-1990s by Ball Park Heroes.
Dave M.
Was this one a Manny Ramirez?
Dave M.
The previous post was in response to dafivehole.
Dave M.
Although the Russell MLB uniform contract began in 1992, there are a few 1991 Russell gamers in the hobby. Russell issued some of the Braves BP jerseys in 1991, and a few "test" jerseys worn briefly by players in 1991 exist. None of these have the R sleeve logo. The test jersey I am aware of include a Bobby Bonilla Pirates, a Jack Morris Twins and one other whose player/team combo escapes my mind at the moment.
Dave Miedema
Tag design carryovers are not uncommon on 1990's Russell MLB gamers, and I just bought a doozy. A perfectly good and legit Mike Redmond Marlins road gamer.with a 1992 Russell manufacturer's label. This on a jersey with the MLB logo on the back of the neck, meaning it was worn no earlier than 2000. I'm happy with it, but that's a new record for me for a Russell tag carryover.
Dave M.