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Eric
12-27-2006, 12:16 AM
On the ASI Website, in the Museum section is a Shaun Alexander 2004 game used jersey with lots of hit marks.
http://www.authenticsportsinc.com/index.cfm?&fuseaction=Museum.ShowItem&item=712&dept=GJY
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Only problem is, the nameplate does not match the font used by the team. Note the skinny "A" as compared to the real jersey.

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We have seen this issue before with a PSI jersey discussed here
http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=3290&highlight=shaun+alexander

The close up shots show hit marks. Where did they come from if this nameplate font was never used?
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I have asked ASI about this many times and have never received a response. But it's good enough that they have put it in their ASI museum

Eric

kingjammy24
12-27-2006, 01:03 AM
eric,

the entire font is incorrect. not only is it noticeable in the "A" but also in the "X". given that the nfl season is so relatively short and getty has photos of practically every single game from 2005, it's very odd that nobody can find a single image of the seahawks using this font. www.gameexclusives.com (http://www.gameexclusives.com) has a formal agreement to receive the seahawks gamers and none of their jerseys seem to have this odd font.

despite the apparent rarity of this font, PSI, ASI and Historic Auctions all have 2005 Shaun Alexander jerseys bearing this odd font. what are the odds that all 3 seem to be the only ones with these incorrect jerseys? you've shown the one in the "ASI Museum" and provided the link to a thread discussing one for sale by PSI. here is one just auctioned off by Historic:

http://www.historicauctions.com/search/list/auctionid/33909/

note that the one just auctioned off by Historic has a different, albeit still incorrect font. The "A" is different (and still incorrect).

ASI begat Expert Sports Authentication which includes bernie gernay who heads PSI and authenticates for Historic Auctions.

wayne bray makes these guys look like geniuses.

rudy.

Eric
12-27-2006, 01:14 AM
is this a nameplate from a retail authentic jersey?
like this one?
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kingjammy24
12-27-2006, 01:34 AM
wow Eric. Nice work. The font on the retail jersey is a perfect match. So I guess that's how it's done: get a blank pro jersey, rip the nameplate off a retail jersey and presto. Seems sloppy though doesn't it? Why not just letter it properly?

Anyway, i just noticed this thread:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=1213

ASI offers a 2004 Matt Hasselbeck jersey that bears the exact same incorrect font as these 2005 Shaun Alexanders. (Original Ebay auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8759294286 )

(Boy, if i didn't know better, I'd swear they're coming from the same source and it's not the Seahawks).

The Hasselbeck shows significant "use" in addition to having the nameplate literally sewn on the shoulders (nice work guys). So somehow ASI managed to get Seahawks jerseys with retail fonts and oddly enough, both PSI and Historic also managed to offer Seahawks "gamers" with the same incorrect, retail fonts.

Here is yet another thread with ASI offering a 2004 Alexander jersey with the same, incorrect, retail font:
http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=1254

In short, this is a font so rare that nobody can find a picture of the Seahawks wearing it. As rare as it is however, ASI has offered 3 jerseys with it, PSI has offered at least 1, and Historic has offered at least one 1.
5 superstar jerseys bearing a font that nobody can find a photo of other than on retail jerseys.

Anyway, Eric you asked how this 2005 Alexander in the ASI Museum acquired its use. Perhaps Bernie put on one of his fabulous short-sleeved Peyton Manning jerseys (the ones that constantly appear in Historic Auctions) and Brad Wells put on this Alexander and the two of them tussled, greco-roman style.

rudy.

lund6771
12-27-2006, 04:03 PM
don't most, if not all, teams have the name-plate material the same as the shoulder material?...the name-plate on these Alexanders are made of mesh...I can't remember the last time that any team had mesh shoulder material since the early 90's or so

after seeing the fonts on these pictures it just blows my mind that not only people keep getting screwed by these guys, but these crooks haven't been busted yet!!!!!

allstarsplus
12-27-2006, 04:27 PM
after seeing the fonts on these pictures it just blows my mind that not only people keep getting screwed by these guys, but these crooks haven't been busted yet!!!!! Honest mistakes happen.......but constant mistakes may be a pattern....to be a crook you have to show criminal intent and actually be convicted....

The Alexander jersey in question is being sold by ASI. According to their website,

http://www.authenticsportsinc.com/index.cfm?&fuseaction=main.aboutus


Integrity
Through all of the changes that the industry has seen, there are many things at ASI that remain the same. Everything we sell is exactly what our name says, Authentic. Integrity and honesty are the core principles of our company. We feel so strongly about this that we stake our reputation and business on it. ASI is dedicated to hiring only the most trustworthy and knowledgeable associates. Our goal is to be sure that every customer and business partner has the ability to trust us. And we are so sure of our ability to provide customers with the confidence it takes to do business with us that we offer an unconditional 100% money-back guarantee if we do not stand by our word.

kingjammy24
12-28-2006, 03:56 PM
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/9584/seavh1.jpg

rudy.

MVP
12-28-2006, 04:04 PM
Are these companies ever going to get in trouble? The threads on this forum show fake after fake jersey coming from the same parties.

-Henry

jon_8_us
12-28-2006, 05:56 PM
I agree.I know some of you guys have clout in this community.They should have to answer some questions about these fakes....
jon

Eric
12-28-2006, 09:29 PM
NFL Auctions has a signed game cut jersey with this odd font

http://akamai.edeal.com/images/catalog4021/folder64863/img4344606.jpg

http://www.nflauction.nfl.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=78313095&prmenbr=65664914&aunbr=78659805

kingjammy24
06-26-2007, 01:44 AM
another one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140132748404

rudy.

mvandor
06-26-2007, 09:39 AM
another one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140132748404

rudy.
And from a familiar source, ole lambeauleeper. Seems he's cranking up his volume.

RKGIBSON
06-26-2007, 07:11 PM
Here is a real Alexander name plate from the 04 season, vs Patriots and 49ers. The numbers have unique texture to them on the actual game jerseys also, not the slick material like the jersey in question.

Roger