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mcwbc344
11-20-2013, 09:34 PM
I have tried to match the helmet and would like some help. I will post pics of what I think is a match but I have trouble zooming in. The recertified sticker on the inside is 2002. I do not know enough about helmets to know what year it would be used in?

mcwbc344
11-20-2013, 09:42 PM
Here are photos from 2003. If recertified in 2002, then I would assume used in 2003. What do you guys think. I can not zoom in. I do not know how. The only thing that I can go off of is the Riddell on the chin strap fading. Please help!!! Thanks

COWBOYS4EVR
11-20-2013, 10:38 PM
Imo
Upper mount chin strap length is longer (which could have been cut)
An
Flag lines up on ur helmet with bottom of air bladder hole
In the pic It looks above bladder hole.

mcwbc344
11-20-2013, 10:41 PM
Imo
Upper mount chin strap length is longer (which could have been cut)
An
Flag lines up on ur helmet with bottom of air bladder hole
In the pic It looks above bladder hole.

I agree with the straps. Just now saw the difference in the flag.

Phil316
11-20-2013, 11:22 PM
Out of curiosity where did you acquire the helmet from?

COWBOYS4EVR
11-21-2013, 12:00 AM
Also I think it only a 2001 or 2002 helmet due to the black
face mask bolts on the sides. 2003 an up are stainless steel.

mcwbc344
11-21-2013, 10:52 AM
Also I think it only a 2001 or 2002 helmet due to the black
face mask bolts on the sides. 2003 an up are stainless steel.

There are hardly no pictures of him in 01 02.

JDubbs73
11-21-2013, 02:04 PM
Nice lid! There should be date identifiers on the clips, facemask and inside portion of helmet beneath padding under one of the ear holes. This could help narrow down the timeframe of your search assuming all original pieces. Feel free to email me with any questions.

JDubbs73
11-21-2013, 02:22 PM
Also, take a look at eBay. Believe it or not, a pretty good photo matching source. To COWBOYS4EVR's point, I agree probably used in 2001/2002. There are some photos from his rookie year that seem to better match your helmet.

PAC
11-21-2013, 02:37 PM
I've looked through every photo I can find from 2001-2004 and I don't see any matches

There are some that show similar wear to the Riddell logos on the lower straps, but they're clearly not the same

http://nfldotcom.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/s_smith_100329_blog.jpg

Phil316
11-21-2013, 02:43 PM
I looked as well and could not find a match. I know Steve sold off a lot of his stuff and it all came with a Steve Smith 89 COA with hologram.

JDubbs73
11-21-2013, 04:07 PM
Overall, I do agree with the others that have offered their opinion on this thread in that I have not found anything definitive photo matches. Some characteristics are similar, some are troubling. I cannot find any photo evidence to support the relationship between the placement of the center stripping and team logo, especially in how they all line up in your picture of the helmet's back.

mcwbc344
11-21-2013, 04:07 PM
The facemask screws are black on helmet. In pic they are silver.

PAC
11-21-2013, 05:56 PM
The facemask screws are black on helmet. In pic they are silver.

One of the reasons I said "obviously not the same"

PAC
11-21-2013, 06:01 PM
In addition to the black screws, the "89" font is too big and the "Panthers" font on the back bumper is too big.

I think you may have a practice squad helmet that's been doctored...

CollectGU
11-21-2013, 11:02 PM
Sorry to hijack, but Ironically, I too have a Steve Smith helmet that I am trying to photomatch. Mine appears to have the proper screws. I am offering anyone $100 via paypal for a photomatch. The clips are Schutt and 03 30 on them.

Dave

Phil316
11-22-2013, 01:54 AM
Dave,

Check your PM's :)

mcwbc344
11-22-2013, 07:53 AM
Will you post a picture of the inside. Mine has a piece of lamb skin where the forehead area would be on the inside of the helmet. Just checking to see if yours does.

mcwbc344
11-22-2013, 09:28 AM
What do you guys think? This helmet is from rookie season. The stripe flag and numbers seam to match. I need a high res. picture. This is from Jan 2002.

strongarm
11-22-2013, 05:29 PM
I'm not an expert by any means, but that looks really close to me. I'm definitely interested to see where this goes.

CollectGU
11-22-2013, 06:21 PM
Dave,

Check your PM's :)

Phil,

Email sent!

Thanks

Dave

CollectGU
11-22-2013, 06:21 PM
Will you post a picture of the inside. Mine has a piece of lamb skin where the forehead area would be on the inside of the helmet. Just checking to see if yours does.

No lamb skin in mine....

PAC
11-22-2013, 08:11 PM
What do you guys think? This helmet is from rookie season. The stripe flag and numbers seam to match. I need a high res. picture. This is from Jan 2002.

The American flag is much higher on the one he's wearing on that game photo. And the end of the lower strap goes up almost to the bottom of the Panther logo. Yours is much shorter and points toward the bottom of the warning label.