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jjkraner
01-29-2012, 04:37 PM
http://us.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1_94919_AGrIjkQAACifTyW7Pg3uuXTpwmI&pid=2&fid=Inbox&inline=1

http://us.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1_94320_AG7IjkQAAWgPTyW7KA4DBA8rcQw&pid=2&fid=Inbox&inline=1
http://us.mg1.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1_93725_AGnIjkQAAWeLTyW7EQ87QFDweHg&pid=2&fid=Inbox&inline=1

jjkraner
01-29-2012, 08:11 PM
Hopefully the pics stay on. I think the helmet is from preseason but hoping at least one game from his mvp season




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jjkraner
01-31-2012, 08:14 PM
Anybody???? I have looked everywhere and cant find an pictures of him wearing this helmet. The brewers are asking the mlb about the hologram. I will have to wait for that.

mlupo
02-01-2012, 09:53 PM
2010 All-star game??? I believe most, if not all players wore that style helmet for the game. Also, what is the date for the hologram, I know it's the wrong item, but the date might give you a good idea of when it was used and you can look for pics around that time. Just an idea

jjkraner
02-01-2012, 10:57 PM
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/103117691.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E67020EAC14C2C586E 9CC5D1DDD37CF8283C183A6977833DD2

photo match thank you. braun game used all star game helmet

jjkraner
02-01-2012, 11:13 PM
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/102874445.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF87892102A727B1636DE2E624B445E5CFA25DD2 8CDABE804DDC6D0652996AE9566AB731E30A760B0D811297

Hart wearing same model

jjkraner
02-01-2012, 11:21 PM
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/00/16/00/slideshow_1001606962_014534_All_Star_Game_Baseba.j pg

happyyoungster
02-02-2012, 09:36 AM
http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/cnishared/tools/shared/mediahub/00/16/00/slideshow_1001606962_014534_All_Star_Game_Baseba.j pg


I don't doubt the claim...but,
I don't see the photomatch in the picture provided??

jjkraner
02-02-2012, 10:09 AM
Still looking for some photos from the back of the helmet to help solve if this is the all star helmet. The ear flap matches but I would like more evidence. Can anyone help?

happyyoungster
02-02-2012, 10:38 AM
I will say this:

While still quite uncommon, this style of helmet is not exclusive to the All-Star Game. I personally inspected the same style of helmet issued to (and presumably worn by) Brewers OF Carlos Gomez. As all Brewers fans know, Gomez hasn't sniffed an All-Star game bid.

I'll need to see some photos of Braun actually wearing this style of helmet to come to any conclusion.

LastingsMilledge85
02-02-2012, 10:45 AM
I will say this:

While still quite uncommon, this style of helmet is not exclusive to the All-Star Game. I personally inspected the same style of helmet issued to (and presumably worn by) Brewers OF Carlos Gomez. As all Brewers fans know, Gomez hasn't sniffed an All-Star game bid.

I'll need to see some photos of Braun actually wearing this style of helmet to come to any conclusion.

The only reason Gomez wore that helmet was because earlier in the season he took a pitch to the head and needed to be evaluated afterwards. Once he was cleared to play again, he was concerned about taking another pitch to the head so opted for the helmet that offers more protection. During the regular season, Gomez is the only Brewer to wear the S100. It must be noted though, that when Rawlings first came out with the S100 all times were given a helmet to evaluate. Most teams didn't even bother wearing them in BP. I believe, only Dempster, Wright, Victorino, Gomez and Cervelli have worn this helmet during the regular season at one point. I have another picture of Braun wearing the S100 during the 2010 All-Star Game, and I can't see a match.

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_mlb_experts__59/ept_sports_mlb_experts-785728824-1279084294.jpg?ymHstcDDKHpB5hU3

happyyoungster
02-02-2012, 10:53 AM
It would certainly help if you posted some clearer pictures of the helmet without the reflection from the flash.

astros5.7
02-02-2012, 02:44 PM
:confused:

happyyoungster
02-02-2012, 03:07 PM
After reviewing the game on MLB.TV, I did notice that the decals on the rear of the helmet were completely different. It is possible the helmet made a return trip to Milwaukee after the All-Star Game was played and the decals were removed in favor of team decals. While I don't recall Braun ever using this style of helmet during the regular season, it is not totally inconceivable.

I would need better pictures from Kraner to make my humble determination.

astros5.7
02-02-2012, 03:14 PM
After reviewing the game on MLB.TV, I did notice that the decals on the rear of the helmet were completely different. It is possible the helmet made a return trip to Milwaukee after the All-Star Game was played and the decals were removed in favor of team decals. While I don't recall Braun ever using this style of helmet during the regular season, it is not totally inconceivable.

I would need better pictures from Kraner to make my humble determination.

I agree it is possible the decals were replaced, but with no distinguishing marks on the helmet in the game, it's going to be hard to prove.

jjkraner
02-02-2012, 07:43 PM
Well here are some more pictures. I will try and take more in the daylight to help with the flash. They don't show what I can really see. The helmet does show that it was used and has a slight batting glove imprint on top. I checked again on the hologram number and MLB change the discription on the hologram number to a ryan braun game issued helmet dated Nov. 9th 2011. So I have no idea what to think. Do I ask for my money back because they told me it was game used and its just issued and is a mystery and they probally wont give my money back. Do I sell it? I was so happy to get it becuase of the cool style and is was different and game used.

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happyyoungster
02-04-2012, 12:14 AM
All things considered:
Very difficult to ascertain any All-Star Game usage.
The only way I see any resolution to this mystery is to ask the man himself...

kylehess10
02-04-2012, 11:59 AM
Well here are some more pictures. I will try and take more in the daylight to help with the flash. They don't show what I can really see. The helmet does show that it was used and has a slight batting glove imprint on top. I checked again on the hologram number and MLB change the discription on the hologram number to a ryan braun game issued helmet dated Nov. 9th 2011. So I have no idea what to think. Do I ask for my money back because they told me it was game used and its just issued and is a mystery and they probally wont give my money back. Do I sell it? I was so happy to get it becuase of the cool style and is was different and game used.

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If the authenticator didn't see Braun actually take the helmet off his head himself, then they're pretty much forced to put it in the database as game issued. A lot of teams do this. Recently the Braves sent out 2 seperate jerseys lists; 1 with holo'd jerseys to specific games and the second for jerseys that were holo'd as team issued because the authenticator wasn't present when they were taken off. Some of the jerseys showed use, while others looked brand new.

If you bought it from the team and it shows use then I don't doubt any bit that it's game used. But if it is from the All Star Game, I'd assume there would be atleast some visible outline of the decal that was on the back of the helmet, or maybe a little stickiness, or just anything really that could show that a decal was there at one point.

frikativ54
02-04-2012, 12:58 PM
If the authenticator didn't see Braun actually take the helmet off his head himself, then they're pretty much forced to put it in the database as game issued. A lot of teams do this. Recently the Braves sent out 2 seperate jerseys lists; 1 with holo'd jerseys to specific games and the second for jerseys that were holo'd as team issued because the authenticator wasn't present when they were taken off. Some of the jerseys showed use, while others looked brand new.

If you bought it from the team and it shows use then I don't doubt any bit that it's game used. But if it is from the All Star Game, I'd assume there would be atleast some visible outline of the decal that was on the back of the helmet, or maybe a little stickiness, or just anything really that could show that a decal was there at one point.

Just remember that just because the helmet shows use does not mean that it came from an actual game. I once bought a relief pitcher's helmet that showed good use; only thing was that he never had a plate appearance with that team.

jjkraner
02-04-2012, 04:32 PM
Just watched MLB.tv for his all star at bats. The helmet matches everything but the all-star stickers. Jamie(banned from GUU) has sent me about 15 emails trying to tell me that this is not the one because of the air vent on top and the stickers. Well if you watch his at bat he does tilt his head and show the vent. All the holes line up even their is small white that comes through on either side of the padding that matches. That still doesnt prove anything really. Would the brewers remove the all-star stickers and put the brewers ones? Thats the next part of my weekend watching MLB.tv to see if braun has this kind of helmet in a regular season game.

frikativ54
02-04-2012, 04:57 PM
Just watched MLB.tv for his all star at bats. The helmet matches everything but the all-star stickers. Jamie(banned from GUU) has sent me about 15 emails trying to tell me that this is not the one because of the air vent on top and the stickers. Well if you watch his at bat he does tilt his head and show the vent. All the holes line up even their is small white that comes through on either side of the padding that matches. That still doesnt prove anything really. Would the brewers remove the all-star stickers and put the brewers ones? Thats the next part of my weekend watching MLB.tv to see if braun has this kind of helmet in a regular season game.

Could you take screen shots to prove that this is a photomatch?

-Frik

jjkraner
02-05-2012, 08:32 PM
I watched a lot of MLB.tv this weekend and didnt see Braun wear this helmet style at all except in 2010 in the all star game. Without closer pictures and no matching decals I will have to say this is not the all star helmet and probably never saw game use by Braun.

BrewCrewSackers
02-05-2012, 09:32 PM
Hey guys, why did Jamie get banned from GUU?