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Hog
01-15-2012, 05:52 PM
I would like to photo match this jersey. the first person who can provide 100% photo match I will pay $50. I will have better pictures once I receive the Jersey.

http://i41.tinypic.com/1zbaous.jpg

sportscentury
01-16-2012, 05:23 AM
I posted this in your other thread just now:

I highly recommend MeiGray. They have photomatched numerous jerseys and shoes for me. They are incredibly thorough and detailed in their photomatch analysis. You can contact Barry at bmeisel@meigray.com or go to:
http://www.meigray.com/edealinv/serv...tic/Contact.vm (http://www.meigray.com/edealinv/servlet/ExecMacro?ctl_nbr=2381&nurl=static/Contact.vm)

Hog
01-16-2012, 06:51 AM
I posted this in your other thread just now:

I highly recommend MeiGray. They have photomatched numerous jerseys and shoes for me. They are incredibly thorough and detailed in their photomatch analysis. You can contact Barry at bmeisel@meigray.com or go to:
http://www.meigray.com/edealinv/serv...tic/Contact.vm (http://www.meigray.com/edealinv/servlet/ExecMacro?ctl_nbr=2381&nurl=static/Contact.vm)

Awesome! Thank you. I will get in touch with them and see what they can do.

ironmanfan
01-16-2012, 08:23 AM
I think your best bet is with Pat (who used to post on the forum) from Endzone Sports......He is an expert on Broncos GU items and could most likely help you:

http://endzonesportscharities.org/about.htm

Let us know your findings....

Good Luck!

Hog
01-16-2012, 08:39 AM
I think your best bet is with Pat (who used to post on the forum) from Endzone Sports......He is an expert on Broncos GU items and could most likely help you:

http://endzonesportscharities.org/about.htm

Let us know your findings....

Good Luck!

Awesome tip thank you! I have emailed them and hopefully will hear back from them soon. I will keep you updated for sure.

Hog
01-16-2012, 10:38 AM
Where are the best places to try and find pictures of the games? I have tried getty images and there is lots there but I had no luck matching this jersey.

cliffjmp33
01-16-2012, 01:32 PM
I believe a lot of people try ioffer.com for video of older games. I believe there is a thread on here if you search for videos that has a couple different options. I don't recall any free sites though.

Hog
01-16-2012, 04:11 PM
I think your best bet is with Pat (who used to post on the forum) from Endzone Sports......He is an expert on Broncos GU items and could most likely help you:

http://endzonesportscharities.org/about.htm

Let us know your findings....

Good Luck!

Here is what Pat said. Very kind of him to reply so quickly. Unfortunately he doesn't offer a photo matching service but he was able to help date it a bit better.

"Having reviewed the photos from GUU (and also reviewing the information and photos provided as part of the original eBay listing), there are a couple of things that I can add that might narrow your search:
· Wilson tail tagging style indicates year of issue as 1989;
· Placement of NFL Shield patch on neckband indicates (subsequent) use in 1992 and/or ’93 (patch first used in 1991, but placed below neckband for this year only);
· Maybe just a result of angles of available photos, but I don’t see the Wilson “W” sleeve logo which should be present on the left sleeve, centered just below the striping (from 1989-’92; on both sleeves in ’93 front of center)

Hope this information helps in your search."

If you look very closely you can see a tiny bit of white on the left sleeve under the 7 and stripes I believe this to be the Wilson "W", it seems the sleeve is draped a bit over the table so it is kinda hard to see. I will post better photos of the whole jersey once I get it.

Hog
01-16-2012, 04:21 PM
I know this might seem like a stretch to try to see it. But you can clearly see a tiny bit of white which I believe to be the very edge of the "W"

http://i41.tinypic.com/4qlta1.jpg

Hog
01-17-2012, 10:08 PM
So according to the info I have gathered this jersey basically has to be from the 1992 season. "W" is on the left sleeve and NFL logo is on the neck band. Which places it in 1992.

Now I just need some help where I can find the most amount of photos from the 1992 season.

Please any help at all will be very very appreciated.

David
01-18-2012, 12:56 AM
Start with establishing that the jersey is the type and style he would have worn. I would start by looking photos showing him wearing that type/style of jersey.

Despite the religion of photo matching, not all authentic jerseys, not all stains, will be perfectly photo matchable. For example, if a stain came in the fourth quarter, it won't show up in a third quarter photo.

David
01-18-2012, 01:01 AM
Of course photo matching would be great and that should of course be looked into. But for practical purposes, the jersey does come with apparently reasonable paperwork, and you can at least establish on your own that the jersey is the kind & style & tagged as worn by Elway.

Hog
01-18-2012, 07:53 AM
Start with establishing that the jersey is the type and style he would have worn. I would start by looking photos showing him wearing that type/style of jersey.

Despite the religion of photo matching, not all authentic jerseys, not all stains, will be perfectly photo matchable. For example, if a stain came in the fourth quarter, it won't show up in a third quarter photo.

Assuming it is legitimate (and I can only go by they several pieces of seemingly reputable LOA's) it is 100% from the 1992 season. Here is 1991-1993 you can see that in 1991 the NFL logo was below the neck line. In 1992 its the same jersey style, and in 1993 the "W" in the front not the side and it is on both sleeves.

1991
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/355721.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD6EEF077122E297E4 BDC1EAC398066CB34675ACC691D290BB

1992
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/97382528.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F537B0265EA72C00B2 B0C9FDF2B98EB7A6E8261538E635065C

1993
http://i42.tinypic.com/23joilv.jpg

Hog
01-18-2012, 07:06 PM
Bumping the $50 finders fee to $75 Must be indisputable photo match. Preferable a picture I can print and frame with the jersey.

Thanks!

Hog
08-29-2012, 07:27 PM
Sorry to bump, but really wanting this bad.