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al3xmac10
01-25-2011, 05:31 PM
If these are real... WOW.
Any opinions guys?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jordan-AUTO-Game-USED-97-98-Shorts-Jersey-/300518987492

http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jordan-AUTO-Game-USED-91-92-Jersey-Meza-UDA-/300518974450

nickacs
01-26-2011, 11:07 AM
Nope, the '97-98 is a big 'ol fakey... The arch of the NOB Jordan is the biggest giveaway in 2secs of looking at it.

All of the fakes on Ebay/any auction house have the NOB as arched, almost an upside-down 'U'. But the real Jordan jerseys have the NOB as a more subtle arch, as you can see below as proof. The 'N' especially is very close to the side jersey ribs, but all fakes have way too much space between the 'N' and side jersey piping

Here's a couple real 1997 home white Jordan NOB pics:
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/1397231.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD72056B1B60BB17B8 F5C3CBC4F9047331D43E8789A9120A8D

http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/258669.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDFD5AC520E11B5DB1 1FE83523A5BCE967827C7DD5123E0CC4


The '91-92 doesn't look right to me too. I've seen (and more knowledgeable) of mid-late '90's Jordan jerseys, but again, if you scan Getty's for 20secs, you can see that the NOB is more wider and pronounced than the Ebay version.
The UDA "LOA" is just for the autograph, so that means nothing for the jersey's game used authenticity. As far as having an Alan Meza certificate, I don't know. I've heard he is/was a big Jordan collector, but have no thoughts about his "LOA"s.
I still don't think the jersey has the right NOB at the very least, but again, I'm not as familiar with the early 90's Jordan jerseys..
But you can see below how a real one looks vs. the Ebay one.

Here's a real 1991 home white Jordan NOB pic:
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/72317823.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD6781E083E46FE207 6AB268B23778C1826FF5B3AD159EBD47

mmonte4
01-26-2011, 06:04 PM
He now has a #45 jersey on there too. I think that one is no good either!

mmonte4
01-26-2011, 06:06 PM
By the way nickas, none of your pics are showing up. I'd love to see them :)

nickacs
01-26-2011, 08:28 PM
He now has a #45 jersey on there too. I think that one is no good either!

Haha, I was just about to post that too :)
http://cgi.ebay.com/Michael-Jordan-AUTO-Game-USED-94-95-45-Road-Jersey-/300519366485?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item45f8599f55

Nah, it's no good either.. Again, the NOB "arch" is a dead giveaway.. Plus the fact is has a Lou "letter".. haha, pa-leeze buddy! Your "letters" are just as good as my toilet paper :p

nickacs
01-26-2011, 08:52 PM
By the way nickas, none of your pics are showing up. I'd love to see them :)

Hmm, that's weird, they were showing up earlier today.. I just copy/pasted the URL links to the Getty pics I found..

Let's try again! Here they are again and a couple more.. I added the Editorial #'s so in case the pics don't show up, you guys can find them on Getty's by these numbers and see..


1997 home white real gamer NOB pics:

Editorial image #: 245840
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/245840.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDCDD1600AE06080F4 A1E620FC3A3EA3831D0971CBB50A403A (http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/245840.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDCDD1600AE06080F4 A1E620FC3A3EA3831D0971CBB50A403A)

Editorial image #: 1397231
http://cache4.asset-cache.net/xc/1397231.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD72056B1B60BB17B8 F5C3CBC4F9047331D43E8789A9120A8D

Editorial image #: 258669
http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/258669.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDFD5AC520E11B5DB1 1FE83523A5BCE967827C7DD5123E0CC4



1991 home white real gamer NOB pic:

Editorial image #: 72317823
http://cache2.asset-cache.net/xc/72317823.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FD6781E083E46FE207 6AB268B23778C1826FF5B3AD159EBD47


And here's a home white # 45 jersey to compare to his other Ebay #45 "gamer".. The Ebay jersey NOB is ridiculously way off vs. real gamer:

Editorial image #: 50377451
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/50377451.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921F7C3FC3F69D929FDE1D7DC7813402484 5A8B8919984710930E4E750616D886BE4E9C89C783688B46

mmonte4
01-30-2011, 11:59 AM
Looks like he sold both the #45 and the 91-92. Both would be great jerseys if they were actually authentic. Unfortunately, they were not.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd feel much more comfortable with an early MJ gamer that had a vintage signature to match that era vs the generic UDA auto. With the vintage sig, at least you know MJ actually had the jersey in his hands around that time period. To me, it seems like the chance of the jersey actually being worn in a game would increase substantially if it included the vintage sig.