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rangersfan1214
08-11-2010, 10:48 AM
I've searched all over this site and couldn't find an answer so I thought I would ask. I have a Josh Hamilton MLB authenticated game used bat and I'm going to the game tonight and should I try to get it signed?

Fnazxc0114
08-11-2010, 10:51 AM
to each their own on this issue. Some guys like them and other do not. It just depends on what you want. Me personally i collect g/u stuff in order to get it signed. I like collecting auto's but i figured you only need so many signed balls and pictures. It added a whole new element to my colection.

lakeerie92
08-11-2010, 11:07 AM
I am not sure about the Rangers, but you can't bring a bat into the stadium in Atlanta, so unless you are planning on trying to get the signature at the players parking lot I would imagine it would be a waste of time to bring the bat along. I would recommend waiting until he has a signing somewhere.

CampWest
08-11-2010, 11:15 AM
I have a MLB authenticated game used bat ... should I try to get it signed?

I am interpreting that your concern is autographing an MLB Authenticated bat... rather than autographing game used bats in general.

I would not worry about the MLB Authentication in making the decision. The bat is still authenticated regardless of the signature being added later.

I would recommend though if you ever sell the bat that you consider explaining the MLB Authentication does not cover the autograph. In the interest of full and fair disclosure to potential buyers.

Kind of opposite but illustrates the point, I have seen people sell bats as PSA authenticated, when PSA only verified the autograph not the game use. Its just bad practice to omit those key facts which causes buyers to be misled.

joelsabi
08-11-2010, 11:21 AM
I would recommend though if you ever sell the bat that you consider explaining the MLB Authentication does not cover the autograph. In the interest of full and fair disclosure to potential buyers.



Good point. Just remember that MLB Authentication has two types of sessions, one for signing and one for game used so any one session cannot cover both the item and the autograph. Signing sessions are usually private sessions and game used sessions are during or right after the game.

CampWest
08-11-2010, 11:35 AM
Good point. Just remember that MLB Authentication has two types of sessions, one for signing and one for game used so any one session cannot cover both the item and the autograph. Signing sessions are usually private sessions and game used sessions are during or right after the game.

Maybe I am not following what you are saying. I have seen some duals... that were well apart timing wise, like 8.5 months... ie they authenticated game use, then added the autograph to the same holo # at a later date:

Hologram number BB756306 was located in the MLB Authentication Database under GAME-USED BROKEN BAT.
Session Product Description:

Session Name: KC AT CWS
Session Date: July 19, 2008
Autographer:
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.
Additional Information: BUTLER ROYALS 1 PIECE 1ST INNING

Session Name: ROYALS SPRING TRAINING SIGNING
Session Date: March 28, 2009
Autographer: BILLY BUTLER
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.

joelsabi
08-11-2010, 11:58 AM
Maybe I am not following what you are saying. I have seen some duals... that were well apart timing wise, like 8.5 months... ie they authenticated game use, then added the autograph to the same holo # at a later date:

Hologram number BB756306 was located in the MLB Authentication Database under GAME-USED BROKEN BAT.
Session Product Description:

Session Name: KC AT CWS
Session Date: July 19, 2008
Autographer:
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.
Additional Information: BUTLER ROYALS 1 PIECE 1ST INNING

Session Name: ROYALS SPRING TRAINING SIGNING
Session Date: March 28, 2009
Autographer: BILLY BUTLER
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.

Interesting.

It seems that the bat piece was authenticated in 2008 and then latter on presented at a signing and instead of giving another hologram, they added information to the database for the same hologram.

So I guess there is certain protocal that occurs when a item is presented for more than one session. Thanks for bringing this up.

Dach0sen0ne
08-11-2010, 12:16 PM
Hologram number BB756306 was located in the MLB Authentication Database under GAME-USED BROKEN BAT.[/B]
Session Product Description:

Session Name: KC AT CWS
Session Date: July 19, 2008
Autographer:
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.
Additional Information: BUTLER ROYALS 1 PIECE 1ST INNING

Session Name: ROYALS SPRING TRAINING SIGNING
Session Date: March 28, 2009
Autographer: BILLY BUTLER
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.

That is pretty cool, I've never seen it that way.

lakeerie92
08-11-2010, 12:51 PM
I had a John Smoltz jersey that was done the same way with the autograph added to the current hologram later, and I currently have a Jackie Robinson Day Mike Gonzalez jersey that was done the same way.

tigerdale
08-11-2010, 01:01 PM
yep...baseballs too...
Hologram number BB546813 was located in the MLB Authentication Database under BALLS.
Session Product Description: GAME USED BALL


Session Name: LOS ANGELES ANGELS @ DETROIT TIGERS
Session Date: May 23, 2007
Autographer:
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.

Session Name: CHAD DURBIN SIGNING
Session Date: May 25, 2007
Autographer: CHAD DURBIN
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.

joelsabi
08-11-2010, 01:46 PM
So I guess my next question is if there is a dealer for Rangers memorabilia that also does signings that utilize MLB authentication for private signings.

sportscrazy13
08-11-2010, 02:21 PM
I never seen both game used and auto on the same hologram either until I got this Heyward bat.


Hologram number LH719878 was located in the MLB Authentication Database under GAME-USED BROKEN BAT.
Session Product Description:


Session Name: HOU AT ATL
Session Date: May 01, 2010
Autographer:
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.
Additional Information: JASON HAYWARD GAME USED LOUISVILLE SLUGGER BROKEN BAT 2ND INN ASTRO PITCHER RODRIGUEZ

Session Name: JASON HEYWARD SIGNING
Session Date: May 17, 2010
Autographer: JASON HEYWARD
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.
Additional Information: BROKEN BAT

lakeerie92
08-11-2010, 02:34 PM
I never seen both game used and auto on the same hologram either until I got this Heyward bat.


Hologram number LH719878 was located in the MLB Authentication Database under GAME-USED BROKEN BAT.
Session Product Description:


Session Name: HOU AT ATL
Session Date: May 01, 2010
Autographer:
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.
Additional Information: JASON HAYWARD GAME USED LOUISVILLE SLUGGER BROKEN BAT 2ND INN ASTRO PITCHER RODRIGUEZ

Session Name: JASON HEYWARD SIGNING
Session Date: May 17, 2010
Autographer: JASON HEYWARD
Authenticator: AUTHENTICATORS, INC.
Additional Information: BROKEN BAT

The Braves do it a lot.
My questions is why haven't we seen said bat?

Fnazxc0114
08-11-2010, 02:53 PM
you cant take the bat into the ball park in arlington. Not sure if you live close. A lot of time you can get hamilton before the game when he drives in to the players parking lot under the stadium.

Fnazxc0114
08-17-2010, 10:53 PM
should say you can take the bat sorry for any confusion

godwulf
08-18-2010, 08:55 PM
Can we assume that the ballparks that don't permit bats also don't have Team Shops where they sell bats? Or, those little kiosks where you can get a full-sized bat inscribed? That would be dumb.

Chase Field has no such prohibitions - didn't even back before they sold game-used bats inside. I recall that early in '02, after they'd implemented some pretty strict (and in some cases really stupid) new security regulations, I wanted to take one of Jim Traber's old bats into the park to get him to sign it (he was broadcasting for the team, then), and I went so far as to call the Event Coordiinator for permission, to make sure that there would be no problems, and he even gave me his cell phone number to use if the guys at the gate tried to stop me.

I had the bat in a mailing tube, which they never even glanced at, or asked me about. They were pawing through purses, kids' backpacks, doing everything but patting folks down - and here I walk in with something that might have been a rifle, for all they knew.

Some of those guys are no doubt working for TSA now.

Dach0sen0ne
08-18-2010, 09:07 PM
Some of those guys are no doubt working for TSA now.

That seriously made me laugh. :D

lakeerie92
08-18-2010, 09:37 PM
Can we assume that the ballparks that don't permit bats also don't have Team Shops where they sell bats? Or, those little kiosks where you can get a full-sized bat inscribed? That would be dumb.

Chase Field has no such prohibitions - didn't even back before they sold game-used bats inside. I recall that early in '02, after they'd implemented some pretty strict (and in some cases really stupid) new security regulations, I wanted to take one of Jim Traber's old bats into the park to get him to sign it (he was broadcasting for the team, then), and I went so far as to call the Event Coordiinator for permission, to make sure that there would be no problems, and he even gave me his cell phone number to use if the guys at the gate tried to stop me.

I had the bat in a mailing tube, which they never even glanced at, or asked me about. They were pawing through purses, kids' backpacks, doing everything but patting folks down - and here I walk in with something that might have been a rifle, for all they knew.

Some of those guys are no doubt working for TSA now.

I have seen the Braves security escort a fan who caught a bat in the stands out to his car to put the bat away. If you win one of the autographed bats they auction at every game they hold it until the end of the game. I also went to a game last year that they gave away "full size bats". None of it makes sense