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anatfan09
07-20-2010, 04:07 PM
Any thoughts on this Rose bp jersey? Would this be from his coaching or playing days?

33bird
07-20-2010, 05:46 PM
If that's a Goodman and Sons tag then I think it has to be from 1985 or 86.

hiramman
07-20-2010, 09:11 PM
Does anyone know a value on a Rose BP warm-up like this?

33bird
07-20-2010, 10:10 PM
I'll estimate 5 to 850.00..Just a guess..

anatfan09
07-20-2010, 10:51 PM
Yes, Goodman & Sons tag, size 44.

sox83cubs84
07-21-2010, 05:32 PM
If that's a Goodman and Sons tag then I think it has to be from 1985 or 86.

Agreed...
it would be from his time as player/manager.

Dave Miedema

1970REDS
07-22-2010, 03:51 PM
Was the Reds not using Majestic BP Jerseys during the 85-86 period that they were wearing Goodman Home Jerseys?

33bird
07-22-2010, 04:35 PM
For sure GOODMAN AND SONS jerseys were their 1985 and 86 home regular and batting practice jerseys.

1970REDS
07-22-2010, 04:43 PM
Wonder why Paul Kinzer did not have any Goodman BP Jerseys on his bulk buy in 1990 , they were all Majestics and Wilsons ?

tacprc
07-24-2010, 12:08 AM
I don't have all my auction catalog pages, etc. here with me, but I don't believe that I have seen 1980's Rose Reds bp jerseys tagged like this one.

The two Rose Reds bp jerseys for which I have some notes handy both had Rawlings size 44 tags on the right inside front tail (from the viewer's, not the player's, perspective) as well as a Rawlings manufacturer's tag (no size) on the player's right sleeve.

anatfan09
07-25-2010, 08:15 PM
I haven't had much luck finding any photos of Rose 85-86 where you can see the back of the bp jersey. This is from a 87' Fleer but I assume the photo was taken in 86?

anatfan09
07-28-2010, 12:48 PM
Received the jersey, I can see why the seller did not include photos of the sleeves. The rather than having the stripes on the sleeves going "white, red, white", this jersey is "red, white". Can we conclude this is a fake? I am sending it back.

tacprc
07-28-2010, 05:10 PM
Does the manufacturer's tag look like it has been added to the jersey, resewn, or otherwise fiddled with? Thanks.

anatfan09
07-28-2010, 10:55 PM
looks to be held on the jersey pretty well, no loose strands or anything.

tacprc
07-29-2010, 01:07 PM
OK. Thanks.

tacprc
08-13-2010, 06:43 PM
I just checked my photo albums and can verify that the stripes on the sleeves should be white, red, white.

flaco1801
08-14-2010, 08:58 AM
there is a thread about unwashed jerseys... if the jersey is unwashed maybe another rose collector that has an unwashed jersey can sniff it for you to see if it has the same body odor...now we can identify game worn jerseys by smell.......

sox83cubs84
12-10-2010, 09:15 PM
Hang on, friends...the sleeve stripe issue may not be over yet.
Ebay has a 1985-86 Goodman BP jersey of a coach, Gary Denbo, up for bids. Very unlikely that a Denbo BP would be forged. George Scherger wore #3 in 1985, but the 1986 spring roster, as well as Baseball Almanac's 1986 regular season player roster, both show no #3.

Item number:160515217670Item location:
http://gamedaysportsarchives.com/EBAY/REDSBP5B40.jpg (http://gamedaysportsarchives.com/EBAY/REDSBP5B40.jpg)

http://gamedaysportsarchives.com/EBAY/REDSBP5F40.jpg (http://gamedaysportsarchives.com/EBAY/REDSBP5F40.jpg)

sox83cubs84
12-10-2010, 09:17 PM
I lost control of the post and was unable to add the point of the photos...the sleeves are white, red, white.

Dave Miedema

LWMM
12-10-2010, 10:13 PM
I lost control of the post and was unable to add the point of the photos...the sleeves are white, red, white.

Dave Miedema

Dave, isn't that what has already been said? From anatfan09, "Received the jersey, I can see why the seller did not include photos of the sleeves. The rather than having the stripes on the sleeves going "white, red, white", this jersey is "red, white". Can we conclude this is a fake? I am sending it back." Then, from tacprc, "I just checked my photo albums and can verify that the stripes on the sleeves should be white, red, white."

It seems to me that the BP jersey of Denbo only provides more evidence that the Rose jersey was fake or at least altered.

sox83cubs84
12-11-2010, 01:59 AM
Dave, isn't that what has already been said? From anatfan09, "Received the jersey, I can see why the seller did not include photos of the sleeves. The rather than having the stripes on the sleeves going "white, red, white", this jersey is "red, white". Can we conclude this is a fake? I am sending it back." Then, from tacprc, "I just checked my photo albums and can verify that the stripes on the sleeves should be white, red, white."

It seems to me that the BP jersey of Denbo only provides more evidence that the Rose jersey was fake or at least altered.

Sorry to one and all...I misread the earlier posts regarding the sleeve stripes.
As Laugh-In's Lily Tomlin would say in character..."Ne-ver Mind."

Dave Miedema

Titans74
12-11-2010, 01:56 PM
The photos in the original post are from Grndslm. Was he the seller?