Strasburg Mania reaches towards insanity

[Fnazxc0114]

I get tired of seeing espn follow this guy. The rangers have a guy who throws just as hard and is in his second year in the bigs. About the only difference between the two is feliz isnt a millionaire.

[Fnazxc0114]

sorry should have been posted in the general sports discussion.

[David]

Sports news and national news is celebrity news.

[David]

Just notice on ESPN, FoxSports, CNN, MSNBC, Fox News how it's not what's said so much as who says it that constitutes a debate or article. Something mundane is said, but since it's Brett Favre or Terrell Owens who said it it's an entire article. As I said, it's celebrity news.

[yanks12025]

ESPN is a joke for a network. They are just a bunch of red sox fans and dont know anything about sports.

[LastingsMilledge85]

One of many reasons why I don't ever, ever watch ESPN.

[legaleagle92481]

i think they are jumping the gun on him. alot of pitchers who look like future stars do not last ala kerry wood, mark prior, etc. It is like they did with Lebron before he went pro, hype, hype, hype. The difference is baseball players especially pitchers are much harder to project then basketball players. This kid could blow out his arm or simply not be able to handle big league hitters.

[Chris78]

I saw Stasburg pitch at Reading back in April when he was with Harrisburg and I was amazed with this guy that night. I saw Aroldis Chapman pitch at Scranton at the end of April and also on May 19th at Lehigh Valley and was not as impressed with him.

On a side note, several years ago I saw Phil Hughes when he was pitching in the minors and was impressed with him. He got injured and has not been great with the Yankees so anything can happen.

[LastingsMilledge85]

Mark it down June 4th.

[3arod13]

Not as much as I am of Lebron James. He could throw up, and ESPN would show highlight after highlight, and would priad him for how awesome he was doing it.

Regards, Tony

[3arod13]

Not as much as I am of Lebron James. He could throw up, and ESPN would show highlight after highlight, and would priad him for how awesome he was doing it.

Regards, Tony

Meant "praise" not "praid"

[gorilla777]

For following baseball in general, I much prefer the MLB Network to ESPN.


Ben

[Manram]

For following baseball in general, I much prefer the MLB Network to ESPN.


Ben

Definately. It seems like the people on ESPN don't really know anything about the sports they talk about.

[cjclong]

I was really surprised to see a Nationals fan with a Nationals team Strasburg jersey. He said he bought it at the team shop. This is the first time I've ever heard of a team marketing a players jersey before he was even called up.

[skipcarayislegend]

ESPN is a joke for a network. They are just a bunch of red sox fans and dont know anything about sports.

Wait a sec....we have a Yankees fan complaining about ESPN's bias toward another team?? What's the world coming to? ;)

ESPN should get it over with and rename itself the Yankees/Red Sox Network. Pencil them in, Yanks or Sox every Sunday and Monday. Yanks/Sox nearly every time they play a series together. Btw, Yanks vs. Sox is easily the most overrated rivalry in sports. :D

[sox83cubs84]

The Eastern Seabord Programming Network? Hardly a surprise. Oh, well, better than any Brett Favre watch, I guess.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[5kRunner]

Check this out! Seriously....its just cardboard.:rolleyes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398394834

[5kRunner]

Check this out! Seriously....its just cardboard.:rolleyes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190398394834

Oh yeah, FOUR days remaining.

LOL - Free shipping. Heck at that price, if I was the seller, I'd hand deliver it.

[legaleagle92481]

Oh yeah, FOUR days remaining.

LOL - Free shipping. Heck at that price, if I was the seller, I'd hand deliver it.

The biggest shell game in the world one of one anything in this hobby especially cards. How many Stratsburg cards will be released this year, that are some form of limited edition? You don't even get a sig. with this one. If he does not make it someone will have a very expensive piece of cardboard someday. Even if the kid is the next Dan Haren or a comparable allstar but not really Cy Young caliber pitcher he will be viewed as a failure so I think investing alot in him at this point is a HUGE risk. Young pitchers get hurt and/or underperform all the time and even the can't miss ones miss or fall short of expectations. If I had to put my money on one young guy it would be Verlander, followed by Lincecium.

[LastingsMilledge85]

Can you imagine the money lost if this guy where to be a bust? I think the collectors combined with fans and all would be a bigger financial loss than the contract that he has signed with the Nats :D

[5kRunner]

$14,800 with just under four days to go. Un-freaking-believable.:eek:

[legaleagle92481]

Can you imagine the money lost if this guy where to be a bust? I think the collectors combined with fans and all would be a bigger financial loss than the contract that he has signed with the Nats :D

like those folks who poured their 401k into ryan leaf stuff back in 1998 or alexander daige stuff when he got drafted.

[Manram]

Card is at 30k

[Manram]

Now the price is going down. It was 30,000, then went down to 24,000. I looked at it again 10 minutes later and it is now at 17,000. What's going on???

[5kRunner]

Now the price is going down. It was 30,000, then went down to 24,000. I looked at it again 10 minutes later and it is now at 17,000. What's going on???

The seller must be cancelling bids. When I looked this morning it was a t $17,800. Now its $17,100. Some goof ball is probably bidding with no intention of paying.

Seriously though, when has a modern day baseball card ever sold for this much? Its not like its a vintage T206 Wagner or anything. And as someone said earlier ITS NOT EVEN AUTOGRAPHED!!!!!!

[allstarsplus]

Check out all the cancellations and retractions at the bottom of the page:

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=190398394834

[rj_lucas]

Two words: Brien Taylor. Things happen.

Rick
rickjlucas@gmail.com

[joelsabi]

The seller must be cancelling bids. When I looked this morning it was a t $17,800. Now its $17,100. Some goof ball is probably bidding with no intention of paying.

Seriously though, when has a modern day baseball card ever sold for this much? Its not like its a vintage T206 Wagner or anything. And as someone said earlier ITS NOT EVEN AUTOGRAPHED!!!!!!

You can get his teammate and fellow rookie Drew Storen for 6K or less in the same set. :rolleyes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Drew-Storen-2009-Bowman-Chrome-Superfractor-Auto-1-1-/140411045437?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item20b126863d

[CampWest]

Bowman Chrome Superfractor 1/1 is at $16.2k.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-SUPERFRACTOR-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-1-1-/190398394834?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2c54a0f1d2

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g94/lkk116/bcstrassuperfront.jpg

[skyking26]

Hype. We've all seen it with so many players. Let's see how he does playing in the bigs for a full year before you get my attention!


Bowman Chrome Superfractor 1/1 is at $16.2k.

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-BOWMAN-CHROME-SUPERFRACTOR-STEPHEN-STRASBURG-1-1-/190398394834?cmd=ViewItem&pt=US_Baseball&hash=item2c54a0f1d2

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g94/lkk116/bcstrassuperfront.jpg

[geoff]

This is just Crazy.You can Buy something really nice for that Price.

[Dewey2007]

Reaches towards insanity, it's already there. Wow! Does anyone think that the eventual winner will actually follow through on paying for the card?

[legaleagle92481]

I have alot of cardboard at home I can create a 1/1 Stratsburg card if anyone's interested in paying 16k for it.

[LastingsMilledge85]

Or you could get this, in which Stephen ACTUALLY WORE and threw a NO HITTER in for less than that,http://syracusechiefs.milbauctions.com/auctiondisplay.cfm?auctionnbr=2265 in which (http://syracusechiefs.milbauctions.com/auctiondisplay.cfm?auctionnbr=2265) ;). Just a thought

[joelsabi]

June 8th announced as his MLB debut against the Pirates. I am assuming you are there Andrew. Anyone else going? It's sold out.

[LastingsMilledge85]

The highlight of that June 8th game is not Strasburg's debut, but Lastings Milledge's return to DC :D:p;)

[3arod13]

If I did get caught up in the big hype of an up and coming young star, it sure wouldn't be a pitcher.

Insane to spend that kind of money on what could be.

Regards, Tony

[5kRunner]

If I did get caught up in the big hype of an up and coming young star, it sure wouldn't be a pitcher.

Insane to spend that kind of money on what could be.

Regards, Tony

Agreed. Could you imagine spending $16k on a Mark Prior, Kris Benson, Paul Wilson, Brien Taylor, or Ben McDonald rookie?

[godwulf]

Somebody has repeatedly listed a Strasburg Team USA jersy on eBay, with a minimum bid price of $2K. I've been seeing that listing off and on since at least last October.

Saw Strasburg in the AZ Fall League last year. He seemed like a pretty good kid - he seemed to be signing a lot.

[BaseballGM]

June 8th announced as his MLB debut against the Pirates. I am assuming you are there Andrew. Anyone else going? It's sold out.

I'm there. My seats are a couple of rows behind the visitor dugout so I hope to get a good angle for the first pitch. Then, I'll cut the photo down and paste it on cardboard and put it on eBay for $16k. :D

[legaleagle92481]

June 8th announced as his MLB debut against the Pirates. I am assuming you are there Andrew. Anyone else going? It's sold out.

they must be going for a mint on stubhub and the next day the ticket stubs will hit ebay im sure. would be cool to see but not worth taking off of work and driving 5 hours so ill watch on tv.

[Mattapan03]

The highlight of that June 8th game is not Strasburg's debut, but Lastings Milledge's return to DC :D:p;)

LOL. Milledge looked absolutely terrified on his first at bat vs Strasburg

[dcgreg25]

I was lucky enough to get to the game last night. Strasburg was amazing. He fell behind a number of hitters in the first and second but then he really buckled down and struck out (I think) six in a row. The mix of his fastball (98-101mph) change (78-81mph) and a curve that is unhittable, when he locates it well, had the Pirates off balance all night. He finished the game striking out eight of the last ten and struck out the side on eleven pitches.

It is the Pirates so I certainly do not expect the same results every time out but there is no doubt he is the real deal. Regardless of the hype, for a MLB debut it was great. Below is a pic of the first pitch- not the best quality as I took it with my cell phone.

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm233/gregguy25/IMG00030-20100608-1906.jpg

[nationals2k9]

Great time to pick this up:

http://cgi.ebay.com/2010-Nationals-Stephen-STRASBURG-Signed-RC-Ticket-1-1-/320543650677?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4aa1e3f375

[nationals2k9]

The mix of his fastball (98-101mph) change (78-81mph) and a curve that is unhittable, when he locates it well, had the Pirates off balance all night.

Did the Nats Park gun show 78-81 on the change? I've heard from multiple sources inc MLB broadcast that it was around 90 (which is obviously quick but still a change of pace).

[LastingsMilledge85]

I couldn't believe that DY's home run ball was thrown back.

[sox83cubs84]

I couldn't believe that DY's home run ball was thrown back.


Must've been a Wrigley Field bleacher drunk who was so wasted he thought he was back in Chicago.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[joelsabi]

10 GU items from his debut

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/feature.d2w/report?wl=33072944&smidx=2&sig0=sort&sig1=search&sort=term&search=STRASBURG

game used baseball pitched in the 2nd inning already at over 5 grand.

[legaleagle92481]

10 GU items from his debut

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/feature.d2w/report?wl=33072944&smidx=2&sig0=sort&sig1=search&sort=term&search=STRASBURG

game used baseball pitched in the 2nd inning already at over 5 grand.

What would his jersey from last night's game go for? Obviously totally hypothetical since I am postive he will keep it. Any guesses.

[LastingsMilledge85]

I don't think he will be keeping it as I would guess it will be heading towards some museum.

[legaleagle92481]

I don't think he will be keeping it as I would guess it will be heading towards some museum.

that will probably be next a musuem dedicated just to him.

[LastingsMilledge85]

that will probably be next a musuem dedicated just to him.

Oh, I guess you didn't hear? The Strasburg museum will be opening up next to the Lastings Milledge museum :D

[nationals2k9]

$455 on a signed ball during a minor league game in April? Why?

I gave Andrew Lang (FOR FREE) a signed ball with holo dating to his 1st appearance at Nats Park last year after he finally signed. It also had a small faint coffee stain compliments of Stan Kasten's nervous hands.

ps - Can I get that ball back? j/k :D

[allstarsplus]

$455 on a signed ball during a minor league game in April? Why?

I gave Andrew Lang (FOR FREE) a signed ball with holo dating to his 1st appearance at Nats Park last year after he finally signed. It also had a small faint coffee stain compliments of Stan Kasten's nervous hands.

ps - Can I get that ball back? j/k :D

Didn't I give you a Manny Ramirez bat for free? ;)

[allstarsplus]

These Strasburg prices will be going nuts. The best deal are the game used dirt pieces as the game used balls are $500+

[3arod13]

I got to admit, with his debut performance, WOW! This kid is really good!!!

[allstarsplus]

Here's a $5,000+ baseball on MLB

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=123653758&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=124000468

[3arod13]

Here's a $5,000+ baseball on MLB

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=123653758&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=124000468

He's not that good yet! :)

[sox83cubs84]

According to Fox Sports, a ball and Strasburg's cap from his debut are being sent to Cooperstown.

Dave M.
Chicago area

[yanks12025]

Now what happens if Strasburg starts to get lit up in his next couple of starts, does his prices start to drop or still go up. I don't know why anyone would pay $5000+ just for a game used ball of a modern player, you could buy a Ruth/Gehrig ball. I think the only way any of these prices hold near what their certain prices are, is if he breaks Cy Youngs most career wins and Nolans most career strikeouts.

[momen55]

I got to admit, with his debut performance, WOW! This kid is really good!!!
wait 10, 15, 20 years down the road to see if he is good then. it used to be that players had to play well for x amount of years before they were considered superstars. all of a sudden, nowadays, a player makes a good play or has a good start, and he is a superstar! give me a break.

as for the high prices, just as ridiculous.

[flota89]

wait 10, 15, 20 years down the road to see if he is good then. it used to be that players had to play well for x amount of years before they were considered superstars. all of a sudden, nowadays, a player makes a good play or has a good start, and he is a superstar! give me a break.

as for the high prices, just as ridiculous.
Perfectly said. Let's give this some time before everyone freaks out over a guy with one MLB win. He is good no doubt, but it's all about being good for a long time.

[legaleagle92481]

Now what happens if Strasburg starts to get lit up in his next couple of starts, does his prices start to drop or still go up. I don't know why anyone would pay $5000+ just for a game used ball of a modern player, you could buy a Ruth/Gehrig ball. I think the only way any of these prices hold near what their certain prices are, is if he breaks Cy Youngs most career wins and Nolans most career strikeouts.

Those records are unbreakable. If he pitched for the next twenty years and won twenty games a year (which noone has ever done btw) he would have 400 wins which is over 100 shy of the record. He would have to pitch into his 50s even at that pace which again is something noone has ever done. The strikeout record is similarly inreachable. He would have to whiff 300 batters a year every year until he is 40. Which again has never been done.

[pietraynor]

Just a heads up..Nats & Indians will wear throwback jerseys Saturday (non pitching day for Strasburg I believe), but these should hit MLB.com. Also, the Indians are making available game used balls, bases & a few other items from Strasburg's Sunday start in Cleveland..if anyone is interested, call the Progressive Field team shop (sorry, don't have the number handy) but it's on the Indians website..Jay.

[BaseballGM]

Here's a $5,000+ baseball on MLB

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=123653758&prmenbr=33072944&aunbr=124000468

Andrew - when do you get your shot at a private signing with Strassy?

[TNTtoys]

Check out all the cancellations and retractions at the bottom of the page:

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=190398394834


Wow. Final count... 84 bids and 75 retractions/cancellations.

I especially liked the bid for $900,000.00.

[TNTtoys]

10 GU items from his debut

http://auction.mlb.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ExecMacro/feature.d2w/report?wl=33072944&smidx=2&sig0=sort&sig1=search&sort=term&search=STRASBURG

game used baseball pitched in the 2nd inning already at over 5 grand.

Just letting you all know... I'm all over the game used cleat cleaner and will bid as high as I have to go.

;)

[allstarsplus]

The team got very little. A few bases for the charitable foundation, some baseballs and some dirt.

MLB got the pitching rubber, tons of dirts, baseballs, rosin bag, bases and that wonderful cleat cleaner.

How much is 16 ounces of dirt worth and an autographed game ready ball of which they are MLB holo'd?

He is pitching again today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[allstarsplus]

Andrew - when do you get your shot at a private signing with Strassy?

I met Stephen and Boras last year after he signed his contract and made his first visit to Nats Park.

I think I will wait for the Private signing to let things cool down.

33811

[yanks12025]

I hope people notice that most of the items on mlb auction are from his minor league debut and not hit major league one.

[BaseballGM]

I met Stephen and Boras last year after he signed his contract and made his first visit to Nats Park.

I think I will wait for the Private signing to let things cool down.

39130

Nice auto. I don't blame you as the hysteria is at a peak right now. I put a few photos on a slide-show from his debut 06/08/10. What a great night.

http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j244/NTLSWIN/Stephen%20Strasburg%20MLB%20debut%20June%208%20201 0/?action=view&current=37e5d8c3.pbw

[allstarsplus]

I am watching today's game and Stras is debuting a new Nike tan glove today after he used an all black glove in his first start.

I heard he has a deal with Nike so maybe he got a few gloves comp'd too ;)