Ted Williams Jersey

[sammy]

According to M&N, the tagging on this jersey was first used starting in 2001. Ted Williams was 83 when he could have first allegedly signed this jersey.

Ted's autograph was pretty shaky the last few years of his life, and he died in July of 2002.

What is your opinion about the authenticity of this autograph?

[trsent]

According to M&N, the tagging on this jersey was first used starting in 2001. Ted Williams was 83 when he could have first allegedly signed this jersey.

Ted's autograph was pretty shaky the last few years of his life, and he died in July of 2002.

What is your opinion about the authenticity of this autograph?

Jimmy Spence likes this autograph!

[sammy]

Out of 168 views, only one reply, and even he didn't state his own opinion.

Whether you are right or wrong does not matter, just state an opinion on the autograph being real or a forgery.

[mvandor]

Out of 168 views, only one reply, and even he didn't state his own opinion.

Whether you are right or wrong does not matter, just state an opinion on the autograph being real or a forgery.

And our auto expertise is??? Where is this being auctioned?

[MSpecht]

Hi Sammy---
Here's a signature from 47 years earlier, about 15 seconds in...not alot of help but interesting nonetheless...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UxjbBFtS50

Mike jackitout7@aol.com (jackitout7@aol.com)

[gameused]

According to M&N, the tagging on this jersey was first used starting in 2001. Ted Williams was 83 when he could have first allegedly signed this jersey.

Ted's autograph was pretty shaky the last few years of his life, and he died in July of 2002.

What is your opinion about the authenticity of this autograph?


Having collected Ted Williams autographed memorabilia, It looks to be legit pre-stroke autograph. Are you sure about the M&N tagging date?

Bobby

[sammy]

Here is the original e-mail answer from M&N concerning the tag date.


Subj: RE: Tagging Question
Date: 2/14/2007 8:42:56 AM Central Standard Time
From: basenfeldera@mitchellandness.com
To:
CC: info@mitchellandness.com

Hey,

Thank you for your interest in Mitchell and Ness. We have been using that tag for all of our MLB throwbacks since 2001. Please feel free to contact us with any additional questions or concerns.

Thank you,


Andrew Basenfelder
Mitchell and Ness
E-Commerce
Toll Free: 866-879-6485
Direct Line: 215-279-9899
Email: basenfeldera@mitchellandness.com



From:
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:48 PM
To: Trademark; Info
Subject: Tagging Question

Hello,

Could you please tell me what year(s) this tag was used on your baseball jerseys?

Thank you,


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[sammy]

When considering the quality and authenticity of the Ted Williams "alleged" autograph shown above, consider these facts.

February 1994: Williams suffers a stroke that limits his vision, mobility, and *handwriting*.

July 13, 1999: Williams gets Fenway Park ovation when introduced to throw out first pitch at the All-Star Game. (Ted could barely walk or stand and was confined to a wheelchair.)

November 2000: Williams has a pacemaker inserted in his chest to regulate his heartbeat.

January 2001: Undergoes open-heart surgery. (This is the earliest year Ted could "allegedly" sign this jersey with his pre-stroke autograph from the 1980s to early 1990s era.)

July 5, 2002: Williams dies at age 83 of cardiac arrest at Citrus Memorial Hospital in Inverness, Fla.

April 28, 2007: Jimmy Spence (JSA) authenticates the Ted Williams autograph on the jersey shown above as genuine. Certification No. B37471



http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/images/features/allstar/allstar_recaps/allstar_1999.jpg


Baseball legend Ted Williams smiles as he shakes the hands of All-Star players Tuesday, July 13, 1999 at Fenway Park in Boston, as he arrived to throw out the ceremonial first pitch at the All-Star Game.


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Phil Castinetti, owner of New England-based Sportsworld on ESPN Sports Business (July 9, 2002):

In 1999, Williams made his final public appearance at the All-Star game at Fenway Park. "I saw him sign there, and he could barely write; his signature was a scribble."


Noted autograph expert James Spence of PSA/DNA states on ESPN Sports Business (July 9, 2002)

If Williams' signature at the 1999 All-Star game looked erratic it could be *because as he got older, Williams became more erratic in signing.*

[commando]

I understand it is difficult to sign a jersey, so you shouldn't nit-pick at every little "problem" with a jersey signature. With that being said, the "T" in Ted seems to have a couple of problems.

Any item signed by Ted that late in life should have provenance of some sort. Sure, back in the 80s and 90s Williams was still signing autographs for fans on the street.... But in 2001-2002? Highly unlikely.

[sammy]

An uninformed individual paid 1257.00 for this jersey.

It would have been just as real with a Donald Frangipani or Christopher Morales Certificate of Authenticity.

What a shame.

[Fraudfinder!!]

This photo shows me with Ted on January 18th, 2000 in his hotel room. He signed several auto's this evening and the quality looked very good considering his health. I realize this was before the jersey in question. http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=11210&d=1202072676

[Fraudfinder!!]

Same night in Ted's room just after signing a baseball for this fan.....I think a well rested Ted could sign a limited amount of auto's with semi good quality at least in 2000.

http://wingstv.com/images/logos/BushTed.jpg

[yanks12025]

Is that George Bush or a guy that looks just like him?

[Fraudfinder!!]

That, of course, would be a young looking George Bush. I am always amazed at how much the President's office will age someone.