Is this Victor Martinez GU WBC legit?

[prozac4312]

So according to MLB.com, V-Mart is 6'2 195lbs...So is Todd Helton. I was looking around on eBay and the only two GU jerseys I could find were size 50. My V-Mart gamer is a 50 and I think it's legit, it has an MLB holo with the COA pictured below. The reason I'm questioning authenticity is because a size 46 popped up on another auction site (not eBay, the name escapes me now)...I hope that mine is real, but was recommended on a different forum to ask around on this forum...Anyway, here's my post from the other MB:

Last week, a member PM'd me about a GU V-Mart WBC jersey (http://www.bricolsportsauction.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=ItemDetails&UserID=0&Category=0&consignerid=0&CategoryID=53&CategoryName=BASEBALL%20GAME%20USED%20JERSEYS&ItemID=87) that I may be interested in...I checked out the link and noticed the size didn't match up...

The GU WBC jersey of V-Mart I have is size 50, which, by all sizing charts I could find, is an XXL. Victor's not a huge guy, 6'2 195...So XXL seemed kind of large for his stature. So I started checking out completed auctions on eBay for GU jerseys in the size 50 variety and came across two Todd Helton jerseys...Checking out his stats on MLB.com I noticed he and Victor are exactly the same height and weight, at least according to them.

one (http://cgi.ebay.com/Todd-Helton-game-used-jersey-Rockies-MLB-Certified_W0QQitemZ300164239371QQihZ020QQcategoryZ 60597QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

two (http://cgi.ebay.com/Colorado-Rockies-Todd-Helton-Game-Worn-Used-Jersey-Road_W0QQitemZ290172446181QQihZ019QQcategoryZ60597 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem)

I started to get nervous because the authenticator of the first one is the same company that authenticated my V-Mart jersey...The authenticator of the second jersey is the same guy that authenticated the GU WBC jersey in question.

I'm not really sure what to make of the whole situation...Just hoping (praying?) that mine is truly legit.

Does anyone have any insight as to which one (if either of them) is legit?

I looked around Google/Getty for a bit for a close up scan of a GU jersey, but couldn't find anything worth mentioning.

Here are the pics of my jersey:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/100_0559.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/100_0560.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/100_0561.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/100_0562.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/IMAGE_012.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/IMAGE_013.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/IMAGE_014.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/IMAGE_015.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/vmartcoa.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y210/prozac4312/PC%20Stuff/Game%20Used%20Memorabilia/l_0bb1906d065ad9c4158bc293fcd55304.jpg

[suave1477]

Prozac well doin your homeswork is a great thing thats half the battle, but you have to realize also it is never especially in this hobby an exact science. Matching up sizes is a key way to do it, but remember not everyone carries there weight the same. for 2 guys who are 6'2 195 doesnt mean they are going to be wearing the same size clothes all the time, Although it is a good marker point for you but again not an exact science.

Example - I am 6'2 between 200 and 210 lbs - I wear XXL cuz i like a loose fit. In number sizes I would even wear a 52.
I also have broad shoulders so I like my shirts/jerseys to fit comfortable.

But remember you can be wearing your weight anywhere, you can have a huge gut which can put you at 195 or all chest muscle or arm muscle. Remember the number sizes on Jerseys is actually chest size, like when you buy a suit.

So if you have 2 guys at same height and weight it is possible there 2 jerseys may be off by a size or so.

[bigtime59]

A photo of the player actually wearing a jersey would help. Is he a Manny Ramirez "I like to wear pup tents for shirts" kind of guy, or does he wear his kit a little tighter?
I'm 5'8", 200, and wear a size 46 jersey. Suave is four inches taller than me, but apparently likes to go "tenty" and is wearing a jersey three sizes bigger than me...
W/o some kind of photo matching, you're going to have issues.
Also, regarding the red jersey: consider the source, and the "authenticator".

Mark
bigtime39@aol.com

[suave1477]

Bigtime a good point about Manny Ramirez, my mother (Obviously an older woman - somewhat follows baseball) has a nick name for him. "Baggy Pants" everytime he gets up to bat she says there goes "Baggy Pants" lol lol:D

[andyt7499]

The other auction is Bricol and the jersey is size 46. It also comes with a Lou Lampson LOA. I was watching this one but was worried about the Lampson LOA.

http://www.bricolsportsauction.com/index.cfm?FuseAction=ItemDetails&Userid=0&Category=0&CategoryID=53&CategoryName=BASEBALL%20GAME%20USED%20JERSEYS&ItemID=87

[suave1477]

I believe the member here Howard may have one or had one for sale, try asking him.

[indyred]

I though there was some big debate on his WBC jersey size on this forum. Here is a link to it. Prozac do you know RyanZimmerman guy? I think he may have posted those same pictures you have. They seemed familar.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=9168&page=2&highlight=victor+martinez+jersey

[prozac4312]

I though there was some big debate on his WBC jersey size on this forum. Here is a link to it. Prozac do you know RyanZimmerman guy? I think he may have posted those same pictures you have. They seemed familar.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=9168&page=2&highlight=victor+martinez+jersey



Yeah I've seen that thread before...That's why I don't think they're legit. I heard that MLB holos only got applied if a rep saw the jersey being taken off.

I heard that a LOT of player ISSUED jerseys that were the wrong size made it onto the secondary market as GU.